Talk:Darth Sploder

Gender
When I first watched this episode, I had the impression Darth Sploder was female. Would they really make all five of them male?
 * Ever seen a female Sith overlord? --Sviptalk 20:11, 27 July 2010 (CEST)
 * Well... is very close to being a Sith lady, I think. But all 5 Darths from "Lethal Inspection" are definitely male. --Fan Futurama 20:38, 27 July 2010 (CEST)
 * What is your bases for saying they are "definitely male"? --Doconnor 19:27, 29 July 2010 (CEST)
 * Darth Talon

Ho too many sexy women, I think that it comes. Darth Talon, I think my comic is not very clean,oh I'd like to fick her.
 * Well, the voice that Tress used for this character is very similar to the ones she used for characters like Butch and Guenther. - Jasonbres 00:15, 30 July 2010 (CEST)

Sith / Actor
Hum, this article seems to be about both the actual sith lord and the actor who plays him in the reenactment. For example the quotes and the fact that it says he resembles David X. Cohen. Should we just change the information to say "the actor resembles" et cetera, or should the actor even have his own article (which to me seems too much)? Aki 01:01, 30 July 2010 (CEST)

About creating the actors' own articles, I guess it should stay the way it is, as there's not enough information about the Sith Overlords. But we can specify that it's just the actor playing Darth Sploder who looks like David X. Cohen, and the original overlord is actually a, so the actor would have to dress up like one. (I think I'm gonna do that right now. LOL.) Fan Futurama 01:06, 30 July 2010 (CEST)


 * Agreed. Fixing the article right now, plus exchanging looking like Darth Maul to being a Zabrak, so we'll seem nerdier. :] Aki 01:13, 30 July 2010 (CEST)
 * Well, I'm all for looking nerdier, but are we sure the re-enactors used actual Sith? I think they probably just made up the names themselves. - Quolnok 12:43, 30 July 2010 (CEST)

Darth Vader
Whilst I agree with the idea of the origin of the names, Darth Sidious should be the only example. I don't think that Darth Vader should be used as an example as his name derives from the Dutch/German word for father. Vader is used as an example on all the Sith Overlord pages.


 * The German word for "father" is "Vater".
 * The bullet points should be changed, yes. But I think Vader should still be mentioned. "Vader" *is* the Dutch word for "father", but that doesn't change the fact that Vader and Sidious's names are both an English word minus the word "in". That might be what the writers based this formula on. (Two times hardly establishes a pattern, but it does so better than one. :) ) Sanfazer: [ talk] 23:26, 5 August 2015 (CEST).

The fact that adding 'in' to Vader makes 'invader' is a coincidence and is a common fallacy that it is the root of Vader's name (that I too originally assumed). On several of the Sith pages it states that this is the actual root and that it is a common trait for naming the Sith, however, Darth Sidious is the only example. Whilst there is a lot of literal/lazy nomenclature in Star Wars, Lucas has said that Vader's name is from a combination of 'death water' and 'dark father'. I don't think that the fallacy should be perpetuated. Indeed, I think that Vader should only be mentioned if it is to point out that his name is not derived from 'invader'.


 * It may be a coincidence, but it's a fact. It might've been why the writers came up with this joke. Whether or not that's the origin of Vader's name doesn't matter.
 * "On several of the Sith pages": Yes. That should be changed.
 * "Should only be mentioned": That's not our place as a Futurama wiki to do. Sanfazer: [ talk] 23:12, 6 August 2015 (CEST).

I have been looking into it further and it seems that Lucas may have only come up with the plot twist after filming began on Empire Strikes Back (with Hamill only being told just before filming the scene), but this doesn't preclude what he said about 'death water' and 'dark father'. He may have given Vader a germanic name to tie in with the Empire's Nazi undertones.

I understand that we are not here for the sake of Star Wars but if the writers are playing on a fallacy or are victim to a fallacy then surely it is relevant.


 * Whether there's a fallacy or not doesn't really matter. As I said, even if Vader is named after the Dutch word for "father" (which it seems he probably is), it doesn't change the fact that you can add the word "in" to both of these characters' names and get a word.
 * And maybe all they're saying is "they named the emperor Sidious? But the other guy was named Vader. So now that's *two* names that if you add "in" to them you get a villainous word. Let's make fun of that". That maybe Lucas didn't name Vader Vader because of the "in" but he named the emperor Sidious because he realized that that would give him a nice balance with Vader's name and the writers just decided that any new Sith lords should follow that convention. (Though whether or not Sith lords are good at following conventions I'm not really sure. ^^ (*coughs* Dooku is a rebel. *coughs* So is Anakin. *coughs* Palpatine don't give a crap. *coughs* (Darth Maul is an action figure.))) Sanfazer: [ talk] 18:38, 11 August 2015 (CEST).