Talk:Crimes of the Hot

It is possible that the PE building was only built recently (or within the last 160 years). While it would be true that importing ice from Halley's Comet would increas the water level, the cubes, no matter how large, would only raise it a few millimeters at a time. So, in the long run, it's possible to have raised the water level a bit, but not enough to immerse the building. 14:34, 12 August 2006 (PDT)

Melted Icecaps
I was thinking of the molten icecaps that should have caused severe flooding, as seen on the news - if the PE building is really in downtown NNY, the water it has access to should have a connection to the ocean. But maybe Manhatten is REALLY up to date and has an automatic water level adjustment installed, like the city is resting on hydraulic pillars to adjust itself to the proper level... --Whaler on the Moon 14:58, 12 August 2006 (PDT)
 * According to some minor research, "Archimedes' principle tells us that the melting ice will displace exaclty the same amount of water (by weight) it is made of. So melting of icebergs and sea ice will not lead to sea level rise." Therefore, melting ice for the most part wouldn't raise sea level (melting ice over landmass would, as it would flow into the ocean after melting). Thermal expansion of the oceans might also play a part in rising sea levels. But I haven't seen the episode for a while, and I forgot that they were reporting current flooding. That might be a little harder to explain. But I like the concept of the hydraulic pillars. They're currently developing something similar for houses, so that if something happens (like the recent flooding of New Orleans), the house can raise itself to avoid flooding. In a thousand years, they might be able to do it to the island of Manhattan. 16:40, 12 August 2006 (PDT)
 * Additionally: "If all glaciers and ice caps melt, the projected rise in sea level will be around 0.5 m. If the melting includes the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets (both of which contain ice above sea level), then the rise is a more drastic 68.8 m." Just for info's sake.
 * Old NY is below water level. The water comes to a hieght close to the road near PE and we know ONY is below that. Water has definately risen (by at least the amount contributed by Haley's Comet). I'd say most places would have stuff like the level raising technology installed. - Quolnok 19:33, 12 August 2006 (PDT)
 * I just thought of something else: It's possible that some of Earth's water was taken to other planets for the purpose of terraforming. 'Course, I don't think terraforming is ever even mentioned in the show, but it's worth thinking about... 23:00, 12 August 2006 (PDT)
 * Terraforming is mentioned in passing on Mars University.

Destructor
Tell me if I'm wrong, but didn't Destructor make a cameo appearance? Destructor 16:43, 27 June 2008 (BST)

Number crunching
Out of curiosity, I hammered out a few numbers and found that adding a week to the Earth's orbit would increase the Earth-Sun distance by less than 2 million miles, and decrease its solar energy absorption by only 0.0376%. This doesn't seem like enough of a difference to negate the massive global warming they talk about in the episode... is it? --Lukeonia1 07:05, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Interesting if true. However, it is possible other factors have meant the Earth was further out already or... something. - Quolnok 07:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but he is missing a point about Global Warming. Currently the amount of CO2 and whatnot is huge, and it has always been so, the fact of the matter is, when humans started industrialising, the CO2 have increased a tiny tiny bit, but that small bit was enough to through it off the scale.  So even if 0.04% seems small, it may be just enough to fix global warming.  Like economics, the environment too is about stability. --SvipTalk 15:29, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Very interesting... I looked it up, and it turns out CO2 currently makes up only about 0.0385% of the atmosphere (by volume). It's increased by 35% since the start of the Industrial Revolution, so that means it was at 0.0285% two hundred years ago... a 0.01% rise. Now, assuming that level had risen 0.01% per two hundred years (more or less), and assuming there was a 200 year break in CO2 production during the "dark ages" seen in the pilot episode sequence ("mid-24th century"?), that gives a rise of 0.04% between 2000 and 3000. Could we assume then that the 0.0376% drop in solar energy would be enough to bring the Earth back down to twenty-first century temperatures? (I wonder if Aaron Ehasz worked all this out while he was working on the script for this episode!) --Lukeonia1 19:46, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to say that your calculation isn't quite correct. It looks like you assumed that Earth's orbital velocity will be constant and only it's orbital radius will change. However, this would destabilize the planet's orbit, sending it spiralling out into deep space. I made the same mistake when I was doing that calculation for the first time. If you take into account the fact that the Earth's orbital radius and velocity change in order to keep it's orbit stable it turns out that the decrease in solar radiation (insolation) would be 2.501%. To calculate the new orbital radius, try setting the equations for centripetal force [(F=mv^2/r) where (v = 2(pi)r/t)] and gravitational force (F=(Gm1m2)/r^2) equal to each other and solving for r. Also, it looks like you forgot to multiply your final ratio by 100 to convert it into a percentage.--Kramer88

Another goof: Helicopter in space/upper atmosphere
Wernstrom, Nixon, and Agnew take a twin rotor helicopter to the orbiting mirror.


 * I think this constitutes as a joke rather than a goof. I think the writers and animators are well aware of this. --Sviptalk 12:01, 27 May 2010 (CEST)