User talk:Svip

Globetrotters
I'm sorry. Though I still believe that the Globetrotters are not humans, I accept the only evidence that exists, which is the mention you brought up. I apologize again for my baseless insistence. ProfessorBlank 20:34, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Don't worry. But I do write summaries to my edits for a reason.  But I remember listening to the commentary and they did define them as humans, who had at one point in time simply gone off to their own planet for some reason.
 * Infosphere considers the commentaries canon unless they are actually wrong (e.g. calling the whale seen in "Leela's Homeworld" Mushu, which cannot be possible as Mushu is an episode that occurs later than the events of "Leela's Homeworld").
 * Oh and, thanks for your contributions. :) --Sviptalk 20:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

One more thing: those anonymous edits were me forgetting to sign in. ProfessorBlank 20:51, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps our warning on that note should be bigger and more eye catchy! --Svip 21:01, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism and css
Thanks for reverting the vandalism on your first edit as a registered user. Also, the screenshot of your CSS is looking awesome. I've been wanting to update the look around here, so keep up the good work and we just might use it! &rarr; 11:00, 8 March 2007 (PST)
 * Oh, and do you know how to upgrade the wiki? Have you ever worked with Dreamhost-based wikis? I can do the actual upgrade, but the script-running part eludes me. --Buddy 11:05, 8 March 2007 (PST)
 * Yes yes, I have all my wikis on Dreamhost systems. And yes, I have been modifying them.  I'd gladly help.  --Svip 11:38, 8 March 2007 (PST)
 * Also, I added you to MSN, so we might talk. :o --Svip 11:40, 8 March 2007 (PST)
 * I don't have internet at home, so I almost never sign on to MSN anymore. But one of these days when I have a day off (maybe saturday or sunday), I'll do that and we can go over it and finally upgrade the Infosphere. --Buddy 11:44, 8 March 2007 (PST)
 * Certainly a good start. Not sure that the page title should be blue highlighted though. Near Death Star probably shouldn't really be the logo. - Quolnok 22:14, 8 March 2007 (PST)
 * Yes the logo should be changed to the Infosphere but I like it - Humorbot 0.4 00:10, 9 March 2007 (PST)
 * In that case, it would be nice if someone could send me a picture of it cut out, with the background being transparent (e.g. png) and not white. It took me long enough cutting the Near Death Star out, though I thought the references to Wookiepedia was funny. :< --Svip 04:31, 9 March 2007 (PST)

Yeah, that's a great skin you got there. Hopefully the new Futurama-wiki skin sometime in a near future...ama! But I have to ask... what is the program you are using on the example for your Futurama-wiki skin? --IsakBQ 06:59, 9 March 2007 (PST)
 * I am using Firefox with the Web developer toolbar, which allows you to edit any site's HTML, CSS, everything. The screenshot was taken with the Linux command import. --Svip 07:10, 9 March 2007 (PST)

In response to "Good greif! What version of MediaWiki is this?"
Special:Version - Quolnok 17:53, 23 March 2007 (PDT)
 * Then why can't I split up templates with new lines? I can do that on my own wikis and on Wikipedia.  And a lot of other wikis.
 * See the Template:Character infobox (usage) I made for what I mean it was suppose to look, but if you check the source of my user page, I must do it on one line. --Svip 18:08, 23 March 2007 (PDT)
 * Hmm, that IS odd; if we do start using infobox templates on most articles we should really figure out what's causing the difference, like you I've never seen a MediaWiki setup that DIDN'T allow the much more readable multi-line format for templates. Must be something Buddy has specifically configured, I think, since MediaWiki supports this out-of-the-box, with a default configuration... Gopher 09:44, 19 April 2007 (PDT)
 * Don't look at me. I think it's just the older, un-updated version we've got going here. I think I might be able to upgrade eventually, though. Sorry for the suckage. --Buddy 10:45, 19 April 2007 (PDT)
 * It's all good man, not everybody's a code monkey :) You really might want to concider giving server access to one of the active contributors who's more knowledgable about web programming, php/java etc, though, then you could just direct our requests and comments to them and go back to work :) Gopher 10:49, 19 April 2007 (PDT)
 * The saddest part about all this is that&mdash;depending on your definition&mdash;, I am a codemonkey of sorts. I am fluent in the latest XHTML, CSS, and SVG, yet scripting has always escaped me. I'm finally learning JS, but it's a very slow process. I'll probably never learn PHP or anything that advanced. And as for server access... They'd have to earn a pretty high level of trust before I'd be handing out access to the files that run this place. It's a scary thought, the things people could do with that access. P.S., how's your knowledge of such things? --Buddy 10:56, 19 April 2007 (PDT)


 * Good enough; I was a programmer first so I'm better at js/php than I am at css, and command lines don't phase me in the slightest. Gopher 11:06, 19 April 2007 (PDT)


 * Congratulations, you now have access to the database. Info to follow. --Buddy 11:39, 19 April 2007 (PDT)
 * I might add my skills for programming, I have been coding XHTML, CSS for years, too have I created PHP and MySQL systems for years as well. Recently I have started coding in C++, Java and other languages.  I have good understanding of the MediaWiki system, mainly because I run a couple of Wiki's myself.  And as for command lines, I am using the terminal on daily basis at home.  I know that it has large advantages over usually GUI's.  Here is some of the PHP work I have done:   And lately I have been working on a 2D engine for some game projects using SDL.  Just so we understand one another... --SvipTalk 15:06, 19 April 2007 (PDT)
 * The only SDL I know or care about is the sixth one down. That's just how I roll. ;) --24.9.202.84 13:00, 22 April 2007 (PDT)

Template:Wikipedia
Thanks for fixing it, I just typed it from memory and hadn't gotten around to testing it yet, as I was editing two other articles at the same time. Gopher 15:54, 19 April 2007 (PDT)
 * I'd also like to apologies if I sounded a bit rude in the summary... --SvipTalk 15:55, 19 April 2007 (PDT)
 * It's all good, no hard feelings; I have a very high tolerance for such things. When I started ot make the Wikpiedia template I was planning to paste one I wrote on another wiki, which is far more flexible, then I remembered it needs many features not present in this version, and just spit that out as a placeholder.
 * Since I haven't said so yet, I love the proposed css changes you've posted; I'm pretty sure Buddy agrees, so as soon as the upgrade is finished we'll get your changes made. Planning on doing the upgrade sometime this weekend, so hopefully we drop in the css changes within the week. Gopher 16:16, 19 April 2007 (PDT)

Spelling
Thanks for correcting the spelling as you can guess I'm not the greatest typer always missing out letters in words - Humorbot 0.4 13:01, 25 April 2007 (PDT)
 * I have a spell checker for Firefox. Damn, I couldn't survive without it! --SvipTalk 13:13, 25 April 2007 (PDT)

Logo
I have added a new logo proposal:, this time it consists of the Infosphere instead of the Near Death Star. --SvipTalk 18:16, 26 June 2007 (PDT)
 * Brilliant logo its better than the current one -  Humorbot 0.4  [[Image:Planet_Express_Logo.png|20px]] 08:05, 27 June 2007 (PDT)

I made it even simplier now, what you think? Got the idea from the Matt Groening Community Wiki's logo. --SvipTalk 06:28, 15 July 2007 (PDT)
 * Did some minor fixes on it: . --SvipTalk 06:38, 15 July 2007 (PDT)

Unbelievable
Great job on the i episode infoboxes I can't actually believe you've done all episodes in two days -  Humorbot 0.4   14:39, 26 November 2007 (PST)
 * What can I say? I have no life! :D  Next thing... Character infoboxes.  But not tonight though... oh dear lord no. :) But thanks for comments.  I had to have a lot of tabs opened (for production order, for broadcast order and Wikipedia for other information such as opening cartoon). --SvipTalk 14:42, 26 November 2007 (PST)
 * f we had barnstars I award one to you right now but as we don't I can't -  Humorbot 0.4  [[Image:Planet_Express_Logo.png|20px]] 14:45, 26 November 2007 (PST)

Thanks For The Edits
Svip, I wanted to thank you for cleaning up some of my entries! I am really enjoying being apart of this wiki and want to help expand the available knowledge that available to the community as best as I can!

When I create a new entry, I generally search for a related entry and copy it's formating. I've noticed that you've been standardizing my entries (thanks again) - Are there templates out there that I should be referring to, or is this all in your head?
 * Sadly, there are no templates as of right now, but I have been considering writing Standard formatting which would explain how to write any type of article. But... I guess I have been too lazy.  But maybe it is about time I did something about that.  "Protesting never works."  "You're right... I'll give it a shot!"  (also, remember to signature messages you say with --~ so we can see who wrote what) --SvipTalk 11:03, 9 January 2008 (PST)
 * Svip, there are these Help:Templates - Quolnok 16:14, 9 January 2008 (PST)
 * Thanks guys, that will help me get started Samanathon 21:17, 9 January 2008 (PST)

Comic Links?
Svip, do you know if there are links to the comics similar to the episodes, ie:

Just trying to keep everything standardized!
 * Not yet, but let me get on that task. Hold on.  I'll write back when finished.  --SvipTalk 07:31, 14 January 2008 (PST)
 * And there you go, pal. Check Template:C for more information. --SvipTalk 07:45, 14 January 2008 (PST)
 * NICE! You're awesome!! Samanathon 10:12, 14 January 2008 (PST)

Back to the Future
you should add back to the furure's vision of 2015 to your user page.Me Potter Fan 01:58, 5 February 2008 (PST)

Wikia
Hi Svip. Thanks for your comment on Buddy13's talk page. I've left a reply there. Angela 18:32, 6 February 2008 (PST)

In response to comment
Actually that wasn't me. Quolnok put that on and I just went with it. Chabby
 * Oh, how crazy. --SvipTalk 16:52, 14 April 2008 (PDT)

Thanks. I'm still getting the hang of it. Chabby

Early copy of ...Billion Backs
Didn't you also get BBS early? Lucky man. - Quolnok 08:12, 7 June 2008 (PDT)
 * We can justify luck in the manners we please. However, I advice us not to post too many images of the film before it is released.  Let us keep to content in the form of text so far.  I personally felt a bit too ahead of myself uploading the title caption image. --SvipTalk 08:55, 7 June 2008 (PDT)
 * Yes, I agree. Likewise with creating the full outline, we should hold that off too. - Quolnok 09:10, 7 June 2008 (PDT)

2008
Just to let you know, by the end of 2008, suicide booths will be proved wrong. Space Pilot 3000 --Fatt Daddy Inc. How so?Anarchy Balsac 03:30, 8 July 2008 (CEST)
 * They kind of are in development, suicide machines do exist. - Quolnok 13:02, 8 July 2008 (CEST)

T2: Judgement Day
1997. Proved wrong, if memory serves. Mukor 02:14, 8 July 2008 (CEST)

Science Fiction To Be Proved Wrong
Does The Jetsons count as a science fiction to be proved wrong? Go Bender Kid 03:22, 9 July 2008 (CEST)

"I Robot" or at least "Minority Report."--Trickymaster 20:10, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Bender's Game DVD info
Frida Waterfall on PEEL linked it here:

http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/1-005524-1/

Sorry, I'd add this myself but I'm feeling very sick at the moment.

Request
Hello, Svip. I am LAAFan on the English Wikipedia I just had a failed request for adminship there, and am looking for more experience. I was wondering if I could be a sysop on the Infosphere. Here are my stats from the English Wikipedia:


 * I have rollback rights
 * I have a triple crown (Featured article, good article, and did you know)
 * I am currently being Admin Coached.

If granted, I would help out here, ultimately for the goal of adding it to my resume for an RFA at Wikipedia. If you want proof I'm LAAFan, just ask. I hope this request can be granted.--LAAFan 20:21, 13 September 2008 (BST)
 * I do not doubt who you are. However, you may be in consideration for sysop if we ever were to obtain another.  Though, I am not seeing the need, as of right now, and personally, we'd prefer if you actually prove yourself worthy to be a sysop.  It took me the good deal of 8 months to get to the status.  So, let us see what you can do, and let me discuss with the other sysops. --SvipTalk 20:25, 13 September 2008 (BST)
 * Will do. I'll start editing here when I get a chance.--LAAFan 22:20, 13 September 2008 (BST)
 * I'd say we're okay at the moment too, not to mention that you just got here. Also, I flipped through the last couple of pages of contributions on 'kipedia and saw nothing related to Futurama knowledge, which is obviously a requirement of sysops here. (Futurama knowledge is required, editing it into other wikis is not.) - Quolnok 04:11, 14 September 2008 (BST)
 * Whatever. It appears I'm not wanted here. Have fun.--LAAFan 22:33, 14 September 2008 (BST)
 * Well, being an active member is a requirement. And it seems you just showed up to ask to be an admin, and when denied, you took your ball and went home. Not really signs of a good admin candidate. --Buddy 00:07, 15 September 2008 (BST)
 * It seems to me, that he is more the type of "administrating" rather than applying content. That could make sense on a big wiki like Wikipedia, but ours is simply too small to have members only administrating.  And if we need that, Quolnok and I are more than able and capable as it is right now.  I suggest he look for a larger wiki than ours. --SvipTalk 00:20, 15 September 2008 (BST)

Bender Bending Rodríguez
Why is Bender Bending Rodríguez protected? I thought the name debate was already resolved. -- the preceding unsigned comment was written by Unit 3.0.
 * Oh, my mistake, I forgot to unprotect it, thanks for the heads up. Should be unprotected in a bit. --SvipTalk 23:42, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Actually
I may have recalled it wrong, but if you watch the animatic for BBS, I think Farnsworth says it has been 2 years and not 4, meaning it was expected to be released in 2005 and not 2007. That's what I recall anyway.Anarchy Balsac 23:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I admit, that did quirk me originally. But given how work began in 2006, it would have been impossible without time travel for them to release it in 2005.  In addition to that, 3007 does appear as a year in the first film, 3009 also appears in the last film.  They clearly knew when they were expecting them.  The 2 years ago from Farnsworth could be that the company continued to function 2 years after it was cancelled as a show, and the two years off from Fry could just be another indicator that he doesn't really remember correctly.  It is odd, but I find it more likely to be purposefully rather than not. --SvipTalk 10:42, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Merger
Hey, I just wanted make sure you're aware of my message on the Community Portal. Just take a look and leave me some feedback, thanks! Joeyaa 20:57, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Uploading Images
I can't upload images and I don't know why. -- Neutral President [ U | T | C ]''' - I have no strong feelings one way or the other. 06:38, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * For "historical" reasons, we require members to have been an editor for at least 2 or 3 days (I cannot remember which exactly) before they can upload images. However, we are considering lowering it to 1 day, the intention is just to avoid people to join and then upload a lot of crap that we don't need.  Usually they are bored after a day of waiting. --SvipTalk 13:51, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Uh oh...
Uh, Svip, we got a problem...
 * ...which has now been dealt with. He's currently blocked for a week, which should be long enough. - Quolnok 03:40, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

My account
Sorry for using yor talk page but I tell this to you because you're one of the administrators. Help! I'm TheFry! I don't know why but The Infosphere does not recognize my account. It does when I enter to my user page but in the rest of the pages it marks me as not logged in. Did I do something? I edited some pages some hours ago and now, I'm an "IP user". Please tell me what I have to do.
 * Oh, I fixed it... Oh, God... Thanks... That was odd. But now it's fixed.

Your hostility towards a new user
I don't know what your issue is, but just because I speak, spell and favor American English doesn't make me "some sort of jerk" as you asked while undoing an edit on a talk page that you weren't even involved in. Quolnok failed to provide a reference showing that there is an official Infosphere rule that that "does not permit the changing of correct English text", and his claim that "a large portion of our visitors prefer the other [British English] style" is biased and unfounded.

Facts that can't be disputed are that Futurama is an American show; written by American writers and performed by American voice actors. It is not a British, Canadian or Australian show. Therefore it is only logical that American English be used in context to the series. Second, most of the world speaks/writes American English with numbers of over 215 million (in the US only, this number doesn't include the Philippines, Puerto Rico, Guam or the US Virgin Islands) people speaking American English as a first language by far outnumbering the sum of the UK (58 mil), Canada (18 mil) and Australia (16 mil) combined. These data are empirical: they can't be disputed. Quolnok's statement is subjective, and can be disputed. Please try to realize that this doesn't make me a jerk.

I have personally been to England, and am well aware of the spelling and syntax differences that exist between the dialects of American and British English. 75.82.24.159 08:36, 27 April 2010 (CEST)
 * We have nothing against the usage of American English, however, we consider edits which only purpose is to change the English variant useless and will only result in disputes (see FAQ, Manual of Style and Rules).
 * Your argument that Futurama is an American show is perhaps... useless. It's up to the editors who contribute to the wiki to choose which English they write it and are comfortable with.  And on this wiki in particular, British and Australian English are the majority.  Your argument that the amount of American English speaking people should be any point to make as well is also questionable, I find it unlikely that any of these are potential audience.
 * So while Quolnok probably should have provided you with links (as I have), he is a Sysop, and basically what he says should be regarded as the rules of the land. So on your time this happened, we just friendly told you that such edits were discouraged and we assumed that would be the end of it, but since you continued to make the same type of edits, I assumed it was some sort of 'rebel sentiment' against rules you did not like.  That is more a type of acting like a jerk than actually contribution to a decision you do not like.  Good day. --Sviptalk 09:36, 27 April 2010 (CEST)
 * Indeed, I did fail to point to the rule, which I probably should have. Here it is. It is also true that Svip might have violated I:R in his response as well. But there's also an unwritten rule about not changing other peoples comments on talk pages except to remove vulgarities and such things. While it can only be seen by administrators, the Google Analytics data shows us that approximately 50% of people who visit the site are in the USA. This rule may seem odd, and it is a little. At the time it was introduced the active users discussed it, there was a slightly higher number of EN-UK preferring people, including the three active members of the administrative team (a US American, an Australian and a Dane). This way everyone is equally unhappy. By all means, use your favoured spelling, just don't remove the others' (the only exception being the EN-AU spelling of "gaol" for "jail", only we use that and it's falling out of favour anyway). - Quolnok 09:56, 27 April 2010 (CEST)
 * Svip, please realize that your behavior is inappropriate and uncalled for. Due to the rude and unfriendly nature of my almost immediate experiences here, I have no wish to create an account and frequent this site as I am now left with the impression that quick assumptions and name-calling are regular occurrences here, especially in light of you being in a position of authority. 75.82.24.159 10:51, 27 April 2010 (CEST)
 * I understand I may have been a bit over the top. But instead of just changing a Sysop's comment to an English you favour, you should have responded to his comment, even if your measure was to challenge the rule or demand pages describing the rule.  Since you did not do that (and you did catch me on a particular bad day to begin with (but that is no excuse)), I felt you were treating my fellow Sysop with disrespect and that actually frustrated me.
 * But you are free not to join our site if you wish. No one is forcing you in, just don't be disrespectful against a Sysop who was actually being friendly.  Then you will just get someone like me who doesn't really tolerate that sort of thing. --Sviptalk 10:56, 27 April 2010 (CEST)
 * I'm sorry to hear you had a bad day, but how does that justify name-calling? Being in a position of authority here, you should be well aware that name-calling only leads to flame wars and useless banter (such as this).


 * There are a few problems I've had with the attitudes and ideals shown to me in my short time here that I find quite disturbing. Some of the edits I made before I received Quolnok's initial message were from finding pages that included both American and British English. Scruffy's page for example, uses both the American "color" and the British "colour". When I edited that page I was merely standardizing. After doing such on Scruffy's page and few others I received a message from Quolnok which told me that I couldn't change the spelling, only to subsequently find that Quolnok reverted the edits, effectively doing the very thing that he told me I couldn't do. The double standard was quite disturbing, especially in light of it being almost immediate. On top of that, he gave me no reference, and being a new user, how was I supposed to know that he's in a position of authority (Sysop), and not simply an Anglophile who dislikes American spellings? 75.82.24.159 11:21, 27 April 2010 (CEST)


 * A few points;
 * I already apologised for the name calling. And I said my bad day was no excuse as well.  I was just providing a reason, not an excuse.
 * If your edit to the Scruffy article is so, then you should have written that in the edit summary below your edits box, to describe that you were 'merely standardising' the article. In fact, you should have said so when Quolnok addressed you.
 * There is no double standard; undoing an edit is a feature of how this wiki system works, it's to avoid things getting out of hands, as the links I provided you with would also testify, we specifically warn that such edits would indeed be reverted if not provided with a reasoning to do so. Reverting your edits was not doing what you couldn't do, but changing the article back to an earlier state.
 * In addition, Quolnok is listed in the About page, which provides you with a list of the three main active Sysops.
 * Now while I don't expect new users to know all the rules, I might expect them to check out whoever they are talking to (clicking on Quolnok's user page link would also have told you he is a Sysop). But when a Sysop tells you did something wrong, don't just ignore it, respond, even if you are right in your actions; respond.  Sysops are humans too, we make mistakes too. --Sviptalk 11:30, 27 April 2010 (CEST)
 * I'm not saying that I was "right" and that Quolnok was "wrong". I didn't state anything in the edits box as I was merely (from an American English standpoint) correcting spelling errors. Sure, I could of stated that I standardizing, but felt no need to do so. I naturally had no idea that this was as big of deal here as it apparently is. So seeing Quolnok undo my edits appeared to be a double-standard, which rubbed me the wrong way so I lost any initiative to look further in this site. 75.82.24.159 11:40, 27 April 2010 (CEST)


 * Which is why your edits had no initial consequence and Quolnok wrote to you in a friendly manner. We don't expect people to know all the rules when they are new users, but when they do accidentally break them, we inform you on that.  But if we didn't revert the edits, what point are the rules then?  I understand not writing in the edit summary, but I fail to understand not responding to Quolnok's comment and explaining what you were doing. --Sviptalk 11:45, 27 April 2010 (CEST)


 * I already explained that above: "seeing Quolnok undo my edits appeared to be a double-standard, which rubbed me the wrong way" adding that with the presumed double-standard "I lost any initiative to look further in this site." 75.82.24.159 11:50, 27 April 2010 (CEST)


 * Then there is nothing we can do, because Quolnok was doing what he was supposed to do based on what he knew. I apologise for your initial impression, but you could have explained that further on your talk page.  I assume this discussion is done, yes? --Sviptalk 11:59, 27 April 2010 (CEST)


 * My point is simply that there should have been a standardized message left giving some insight toward Quolnok's authority and the history explaining the use of spelling variations (including links to the rules) that should have been originally left on my talk page. I honestly feel that would have prevented this whole misunderstanding. 75.82.24.159 12:10, 27 April 2010 (CEST)

In closing, I'd like to say that there are nothing much we can do, as the damage is done. But I would prefer this was a lesson we could learn from, and be better at addressing new users who break this rule in the future. The I:EN link should provide a quick and simple way to the guideline in question. --Sviptalk 12:47, 28 April 2010 (CEST)

I just needed to tell you this.
I don't think I gave everyone here a good impression. I am not an asshole. Also, the talk page for Herself still exists.

BenderZombie 18:57, 22 July 2010 (CEST)


 * If you delete your history, you are doomed to repeat it. This is why the talk page is not gone. --Sviptalk 19:06, 22 July 2010 (CEST)

Just a friendly warning
SOmebody vandalized the main page. It has been changed so that the Professor is creating a one-way "fuck machine".

BenderZombie 21:03, 28 July 2010 (CEST)

Update:The perpetrator is User:Vandalist
What say you undo the damage and block the vandalist.

BenderZombie 21:08, 28 July 2010 (CEST)

Now I have erased that false information
What a filthy liar. Trying to blame me for his vandalism. I would never ever vandalize any article here. May Vandalist die a violent death and burn in Hell. He is such a pain in the ass!

BenderZombie 16:42, 29 July 2010 (CEST)


 * Don't get yourself fired up about it. It's exactly his intent.  Best thing is to ignore him. --Sviptalk 23:44, 29 July 2010 (CEST)

The Infosphere (website)
I thought it was repeated unnecessarily. So I removed it. (None of my business, I know...) --Fan Futurama 16:56 31 July 2010 (CEST)
 * Trivia != trivial. Look up the difference. --Sviptalk 17:05, 31 July 2010 (CEST)
 * LOL. Now I get it. Sorry for the trouble, Svip. --Fan Futurama 23:22 1 August 2010 (CEST)

A glitch/problem caused by your bot
http://theinfosphere.org/index.php?title=Lrrr&oldid=69041

Last night when I was going to update Lrrr, I had noticed your bot had caused the page to glitch up (as seen in the link); just thought I should inform you. Thegreyanomaly 06:32, 4 September 2010 (CEST)
 * Yeah, I have noticed that. I am still not sure what causes it.  Though, if it is persistent with one page, I'd recommend adding a bot comment to prevent the bot from editing the page. --Sviptalk 12:38, 4 September 2010 (CEST)

Good call
Hi, I am just saying, good call for not joining Wikia. If you have a look on Community Central, there is chaos due to Wikia announcing their new horrible skin. Good call for not merging with Futurama wiki. 92.7.194.78 23:09, 29 September 2010 (CEST)
 * Well, I often speak to people who have engaged with Wikia in the past, and the universal sentiment I get is: 'Don't make the mistake we did; Don't join them'. I decided to ask on issues I was concerned about; ads, skin, control and such.  And they could not say they could promise anything.  In fact, almost the opposite.
 * Part of Wikia's problem is its philosophy. And I am not just talking about being for-profit.  Wikia feel that its most important user is its editors.  And while I agree that editors are very important on wikis, they are not what the wikis are actually designed for; the readers.  You see, Wikia is pretty good looking if you are an editor (no ads, easy buttons for editing and so on), but it looks horrendous if you are just there for reading articles, which -- they have to admit -- is sort of the point.
 * I understand the advantages with a merge, but in contrast they are insignificant or not important. This server is running pretty good, I should say. --Sviptalk 00:27, 30 September 2010 (CEST)

Losers!
Big soccer fan? Hope so. 'CAUSE YOU LOST!! (By the way, are we moving it or not?) San Saber 23:55, 8 October 2010 (CEST)
 * Actually, I did mean to offend a little! San Saber (quoting Turanga Leela in 3ACV18) 15:52, 12 October 2010 (CEST)
 * I don't care in the slightest about sports. --Sviptalk 16:00, 12 October 2010 (CEST)
 * You could still be a little sadder for your country, though. You know, show you resented the insult... Also, I've just realised you forgot about Avatar on your user page. Too busy to go to the movies, huh? San Saber 17:06, 12 October 2010 (CEST)

Wikisimpsons
Hi, You may remember me from the Wikia Futurama wiki but, I am happy to tell you, I have left Wikia and have been perma blocked there anyway. We are currently in the process of moving the Wikisimpsons from Wikia to ShoutWiki (in which the staff at ShoutWiki will be doing all for us). You may be wondering why I am telling you this. We have many links to the Wikia Futurama wiki due to the shows being closely related. I was just wondering whether if we were to link here instead of Wikia, would you do the same for us?

If we could even become closer than that and become an affiliate of you, we would be grateful. At the moment, we are in the queue to be moved to ShoutWiki but, if you reply, I will tell you when the content has been moved over.

Thanks, and I hope to hear from you soon, ☆ The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 23:16, 21 October 2010 (CEST)
 * Sure we would! We have been looking for a decent Simpsons wiki.  Wikipedia is nice but doesn't exactly cut it fully, you know?  Most certainly will we 'repay' your respects. --Sviptalk 23:56, 21 October 2010 (CEST)


 * Glad to hear. We will have over 6000 articles once content has been moved over. I have reminded ShoutWiki again just to be sure. This is the link. I will contact you again once all the content has been moved then. Thanks, ☆ The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 07:14, 22 October 2010 (CEST)


 * I'm sorry it took so long but the import is over. Unfortunately, it means we have forked from Wikia. The link again is here. I will be changing links from the Wikia Futurama wiki to here. And, if we are going to become proper affiliates, how would you put an image in the sidebar like you do for your affiliates? Thanks, ☆ The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 07:24, 16 November 2010 (CET)


 * If by 'unfortunately', you mean 'fortunately'. I will create a wikilink as soon as I am able for your new wiki.  As for the image on the sidebar: Anything you had in mind? --Sviptalk 10:05, 16 November 2010 (CET)


 * Well, it is unfortunately as some users are still staying on Wikia... We have an image here. I'm not sure if you could use that though. So, how do you add images like that to a sidebar as I would like to do the same for you? Thanks, ☆ The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 19:00, 16 November 2010 (CET)
 * The affiliates thing is an extension I wrote myself, see Modifications extension. The picture is fine.  I will add that when I get the time! --Sviptalk 19:04, 16 November 2010 (CET)


 * Well, I think I won't bother with images there. I will just add a link instead. That should suffice. Where is your favicon as well? I would like to make a template on Wikisimpsons for links here using that. Similar to this template. Thanks, ☆ The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 19:33, 16 November 2010 (CET)
 * Hey again, could you answer my question please? Thanks, ☆ The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 22:55, 19 November 2010 (CET)
 * - Quolnok 06:29, 20 November 2010 (CET)

Just wondering when you are going to be adding us? Thanks, ☆ The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 22:13, 24 November 2010 (CET)
 * It is done. --Sviptalk 22:29, 24 November 2010 (CET)
 * Thanks. ☆ The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 22:39, 24 November 2010 (CET)

Oh, and do I have permission to link articles here to Wikisimpsons as well? I have already added several links on Wikisimpsons to here. ☆ The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 22:41, 24 November 2010 (CET)
 * Let me just add an interwiki link for that purpose, Text should work in just a bit. --Sviptalk 22:42, 24 November 2010 (CET)
 * OK, cool. Added a load more links using a template on Wikisimpsons to here, mainly on the Futurama article there. Thanks. ☆ The   Solar   Dragon  ☆ 22:49, 24 November 2010 (CET)
 * Couldn't we have something like instead? San Saber 01:29, 25 November 2010 (CET)

My Recent Edits
Thanks you fixing my mistakes. About the grammar, I am still unsure about the correct usage. Wikipedia and the internet tend to give conflicting information. The manual of style didn't have anything on the issue either. But if that's what the wiki is going with. Just looking for some continuity.
 * Generally speaking, you avoid an additional s if the word already ends on an s. For instance, how do you pluralise 'class', you don't just add an extra s, because it is a special case.
 * Now it is true that there are some arguments whether this only applies to regular nouns and not proper nouns, but I really don't see the need for making the rules more confusing. --Sviptalk 11:15, 8 November 2010 (CET)

Produciton
Hi, Svip. As you probably know, the year articles have this recurring typo, Produciton. I was wondering if you could have your bot take care of it, 'cause, you know, I don't think anyone here feels like changing those 75 pages. (I've been counting them...) San Saber 14:44, 19 December 2010 (CET)


 * Consider its usage on insignificant articles, I am going to give it a pass. Since it is largely accredited to one contributor for all those years articles, I am going to assume he too misspelt it.  As such, I will probably let it slide.  Besides, it is not my intend for the bot to fix spelling.  That always ends in a huge mess. --Sviptalk 14:50, 19 December 2010 (CET)
 * Alright, then. I guess I'll simply fix one or two every day from now on. Maybe others will follow. San Saber 14:59, 19 December 2010 (CET)
 * Let's call it ten. San Saber 15:07, 19 December 2010 (CET)
 * I noticed this error awhile back and fixed it when I saw it. If you are going to start going through them I'll help also. Why pages were made beyond 2010 seems a bit strange. I understand that it was made on a template but it seems stupid to apply it for all these dates. I sincerely doubt that Futurama will be around in 2030 and having a section for in universe info when the show is based in the 31st century makes a lot of these pages useless. Teyrn of Highever 19:21, 19 December 2010 (CET)
 * I agree that the series won't last so long, but you can't be sure of anything when it comes to in-universe events, what with all the time travel we've been accustomed to. I've noticed your latest edits, and I appreciate them. Man, Chris of the Futurama really lucked out, huh? San Saber 19:35, 19 December 2010 (CET)
 * After a fairly boring session, I think that I got most of the errors. There may be some others on other pages but I haven't seen any yet. Apparently the bot deleted some of the pages, 2028 comes to mind, but not others. Will do a run through before moving to to other edits. Teyrn of Highever 19:38, 19 December 2010 (CET)

Many of these pages deserve deletion. Or just work as a redirect. I would recommend for everyone to create a redirect if the articles contain nothing, which many of them does. -Sviptalk 19:57, 19 December 2010 (CET)
 * Where would we redirect them to? Timeline? Someone probably should've thought of this before Teyrn of Highever went through all that trouble... San Saber 20:05, 19 December 2010 (CET)
 * There is already an 21st century article. Just redirect it there. --Sviptalk 20:10, 19 December 2010 (CET)
 * Okay. That'll be enough, I suppose. About 60 pages to go, people. Let's move! San Saber 20:14, 19 December 2010 (CET)
 * So a half-hour is wasted, doesn't really matter. Some already redirect to the proper page so that's good. I guess that the fixed pages can be placeholders until the redirects are up. I guess this little incident teaches us to wait for orders before starting to work. Teyrn of Highever 20:16, 19 December 2010 (CET)
 * Wait, what? Orders?
 * The 21st century seems to be taken care of. Now it's the 20th that we need to work on. (I look forward to doing people stuff.) San Saber 20:42, 19 December 2010 (CET)
 * Guys, I wish I had your strength. Aki 00:58, 20 December 2010 (CET)
 * What do you mean? San Saber 13:24, 20 December 2010 (CET)

Category:Episodes with Philip J. Fry
JediRogue started a discussion in Category talk:Episodes with Philip J. Fry. It seems to have something to do with you... San Saber 02:56, 30 December 2010 (CET)
 * I just replied. --Sviptalk 03:01, 30 December 2010 (CET)

Number 9 Man
Hello, Svip. It's me, San Saber. JediRogue's just made some edits to the Number 9 Man article, so I went there to check 'em out. I thought about updating it a bit, maybe adding a few ITWGY images, but noticed it's protected. And I can't edit protected articles with the new account yet. I Viewed history, and it turns you were the one who protected the page. And I've been thinking... ''It's been 2 years. What about unprotecting it?'' Nine doesn't seem to have seen much traffic during these last few months. Sanfazer 00:26, 3 January 2011 (CET)
 * Done. --Sviptalk 01:03, 3 January 2011 (CET)
 * That's good news, everyone. Thanks. Sanfazer 19:29, 3 January 2011 (CET)

Episode Infobox
Sanfazer recently performed an edit that I want your opinion on. I have been talking to him and he made this edit because he thought that it was more preferable. He then undid it because of the amount of articles that would need to be changed. Since you are an administrator and were the last one to edit the infobox, I wanted your opinion. I am willing to make the needed changes but didn't want to make them without some input. Teyrn of Highever 01:21, 9 March 2011 (CET)
 * 'First air date' is a better phrase, but don't change the parameter. But if you really want the other one, make both possible ones:
 * Changing it entirely was kinda stupid. --Sviptalk 01:38, 9 March 2011 (CET)
 * Thanks. I will make the changes after I finish the transcripts. Teyrn of Highever 01:49, 9 March 2011 (CET)
 * I saw what you wrote previously but am unsure how to implement the changes. Sanfazer is also having troubles. Would you be able to make the change to the infobox? If you can't make the change, can you give us some more info so we can do it ourselves? Teyrn of Highever 01:10, 11 March 2011 (CET)
 * Hi folks, I just did it while logged out, then subsequently protected the page because I should have been forced to log in. - Quolnok 09:32, 11 March
 * Hi folks, I just did it while logged out, then subsequently protected the page because I should have been forced to log in. - Quolnok 09:32, 11 March

2011 (CET)
 * Thanks, Quolnok. I figured that was the change but when I did attempted it, I never noticed anything different in the infobox preview. I guess that's what Svip wanted though. Teyrn of Highever 12:21, 11 March 2011 (CET)

Memory Alpha
I hope this isn't just me, but  is sending us here instead of here. Can you fix it? Sanfazer 01:07, 22 March 2011 (CET)
 * Well, it used to be the former URL that their site used. I'll better change it then if they have changed. --Sviptalk 04:52, 22 March 2011 (CET)
 * Should be pointing a new direction now. Though, pages might need to be cache-purged for it to take affect. --Sviptalk 04:53, 22 March 2011 (CET)
 * Uplifting. Sanfazer 23:09, 22 March 2011 (CET)

New New York Historical Society building
Could this page be deleted and the title redirected to New New York Historical Society? It gives the same information on the same topic.
 * Everyone is allowed to create a redirect over an article, but done. --Sviptalk 23:51, 22 March 2011 (CET)
 * I just wasn't sure because they both have text. Thanks, anyway. Teyrn of Highever 23:58, 22 March 2011 (CET)

Reviews
This wouldn't have happened if I had read Teyrn's posts properly. Svip, I read your PEEL comment. (Don't really know how to link to it.) Please tell me what this is. Sanfazer 21:02, 23 March 2011 (CET)


 * Well, back when season 6 began, we discussed on PEEL that the ratings on gotfuturama was unpredictable and useless as an actual presentation of the quality of an episode, because much of the reviews were either ill informed or basically uninteresting.
 * This was so an attempt to redeem this issue by creating a review site where you need to be a user to review episodes, in addition reviewers should ensure well written reviews as well as many different possible ratings. If you want to review as well, just register an account and I will set you up. --Sviptalk 21:13, 23 March 2011 (CET)
 * Registered. Also, I'm not sure whether or not this is supposed to happen, but I've read the FAQ and can't find out how to post reviews. Sanfazer 21:21, 24 March 2011 (CET)
 * I need to make you a 'reviewer' before you can do it. I am not sure if it is not obvious from the FAQ, but you are technically supposed to contact me about getting such a promotion. --Sviptalk 21:22, 24 March 2011 (CET)
 * Your account has now been upgraded to reviewer. --Sviptalk 21:23, 24 March 2011 (CET)
 * Thanks.
 * Yes, you're right. It does mention I have to contact you on PEEL. But what can a user who's not a reviewer do exactly? ("I, Roommate" has three Os.) Sanfazer 21:35, 24 March 2011 (CET)
 * A non-reviewer can approve/disapprove of reviews. The hope was if we gathered enough information on that subject, we might be better to appropriately tell a tale upon a reviewer's ability to review.  Unfortunately, we do not enough data to gather such a perspective. --Sviptalk 21:37, 24 March 2011 (CET)
 * That much is clear. Hey, my first review is done, and I'll be publishing it soon. (Maybe some money will get involved...) I'm planning to write a new one every week, so, who knows? If others join in, this can grow a little. So far, there are only eleven users! Is this kind of like a private thing, or would it be a good idea to advertise this site here on The Infosphere? Sanfazer 21:47, 24 March 2011 (CET)
 * It started as a private experiment related to PEEL. But we can advertise it on the Infosphere for people interested in expressing their opinions on the episodes in a reviewable manner. --Sviptalk 21:50, 24 March 2011 (CET)
 * And will we? Sanfazer 21:54, 24 March 2011 (CET)
 * When we have come up with a decent way to do so. I don't want it to be obstructive to people not interested, but also not lost in the vastness of information overload. --Sviptalk 21:56, 24 March 2011 (CET)
 * Sounds right. Try to take care of the 1ACV03 thing in the meantime. Sanfazer 22:19, 24 March 2011 (CET)
 * I already did. --Sviptalk 22:24, 24 March 2011 (CET)

Template:Article-shortcut
Would you mind if I removed the hyphen from the/"your" template's title? Sanfazer 20:23, 2 April 2011 (CEST)
 * Sure thing. --Sviptalk 21:40, 2 April 2011 (CEST)
 * I took that as a no! It's been moved. Sanfazer 17:19, 3 April 2011 (CEST)
 * It was meant as a yes. I was on the phone when I wrote it, so I tried to keep it short. --Sviptalk 17:26, 3 April 2011 (CEST)
 * LOL. I'm sorry. I've already moved it back. What is it about you and hypens? Sanfazer 18:13, 3 April 2011 (CEST)
 * Wait, I meant it as a 'yes, you may move it'. Eh.  Anyway, I like the hyphens in the canon examples, though. --Sviptalk 20:29, 3 April 2011 (CEST)
 * Growing tired of this little back and forth, I moved it. This just makes it clear that we really need to be more clear on these talk pages. Most of the confusion seems to come from people writing too quickly rather than the issue that is being talked about. Teyrn of Highever 23:17, 3 April 2011 (CEST)

Formatting rules
About a month ago I was editing A Leela of Her Own when I noticed a rule that said "The acts begin and end at commercial breaks, and they also correspond to the chapters of the DVDs." I started a discussion on the talk page because three of the acts were only two sentences long. After the discussion, the article was changed from 5 to 3 acts. Ignoring cold openings, I remember seeing a page that also had this problem. My question is, can this rule be removed, giving editors a carte-blanche to edit the page? Or does this rule still need to be upheld? Teyrn of Highever 15:45, 4 April 2011 (CEST)
 * Usually the story can be longer rather than just a few sentences per act. But sometimes you'll have to accept the short acts, I guess. --Sviptalk 16:44, 4 April 2011 (CEST)

Protection
Now that I finished the season six transcripts, I have decided to move make updates to the existing transcripts. The only real thing that these transcripts need is an minor fixes and links to newer pages. Yesterday, while I was updating the transcript for Space Pilot 3000, I noticed that you protected the transcript from unregistered users but not the other transcripts. Wouldn't it make sense to protect all of them or none of them. I had a brief discussion with Sanfazer about this yesterday on his talk page if you want to hear my arguments. Teyrn of Highever 17:18, 5 April 2011 (CEST)
 * The reason was that an IP user edited the transcript, so I decided to protect it. Then I realised it would be too much work protecting all transcript articles.  Fortunately, MediaWiki allows you to protect a namespace which is defined by the 'edittranscripts' user right.  See Special:ListGroupRights under 'autoconfirmed'. --Sviptalk 17:23, 5 April 2011 (CEST)
 * I checked it out, and while only Space Pilot says that it is protected, even the new ones are. Thanks for clearing that up. Teyrn of Highever 17:27, 5 April 2011 (CEST)

Clarification
Do you mind explaining something to me over here? I'm having a bit of trouble with some of the year articles. Teyrn of Highever 16:04, 26 April 2011 (CEST)

Where the Buggalo Roam
This is the only episode I have seen that has a prerequisite section. Ordinarily I would delete it, but when I looked at the history, I noticed that you contributed to the this section. Can you give a rationale for keeping this section, considering that it seems to be one of a kind?
 * It was something we tried out years ago. It seemed like a good idea, but in retrospect, it may required too much work.  You are welcome to delete it.  Though, I thought Bender's Big Score also contained it. --Sviptalk 20:44, 2 May 2011 (CEST)
 * If it does, I'll take care of it. Thanks. Teyrn of Highever 21:48, 2 May 2011 (CEST)

Bot issues
Can you look at | this revision? The bot seems to have caused some problems. Teyrn of Highever 22:50, 3 May 2011 (CEST)
 * I've made a quick fix, this should hopefully not happen again. I will soon write a system where you can report bugs regarding the bot easily. --Sviptalk 22:54, 3 May 2011 (CEST)

Wikisimpsons and the Animated Sitcom Wiki Alliance
Hi, it's Solar Dragon from Wikisimpsons, I can't log in for some reason though. Just telling you that Wikisimpsons is moving and going independent. We'll give you the URL once we've moved so you can change your links for us. We have been discussing setting up something like NIWA, but for Animated Sitcoms. What do you think, would you be interested in helping to set up and be one of the fouding members? We need to discuss this in further detail so if you could come to our forum, here, that would be great.

Thanks, 92.7.206.244 16:20, 17 May 2011 (CEST)
 * Well, are you interested at all? Also, is there any chance of getting into my account even though I've forgotten the password? Thanks, Solar Dragon 92.7.200.199 13:58, 20 May 2011 (CEST)
 * Fine, whatever then. I see your not interested. 92.25.162.254 22:40, 22 May 2011 (CEST)
 * You are slightly impatient. I have not been in a position to consider this appropriately.  In addition, I do not make the decisions for this wiki single-handedly.  In fact, I would have recommended a discussion about it on the conference table.  Not to worry, I shall start it for you.
 * I am just very busy these days and I felt I did not want to respond without a decent response. --Sviptalk 05:38, 23 May 2011 (CEST)

Hi again, we have it all set up here. We need input from the Infosphere as well as Wikisimpsons. I would like it if you could organise a couple of representatives from the Infosphere who will get moderator rights on the forum and admin rights on the wiki. We would also like input to our discussions on the skin, logo and requirements for joining. I doubt you want to put anything else in the sitenotice right now but if you could, that would be great. Thanks, Solar the Dragon 22:46, 29 July 2011 (CEST)

Soupy
Hi, Svip. Before my edit, the Randy Munchnik article stated that Randy's partner's name, Soupy, was only revealed in the commentary for 6ACV04, but it seems you already knew the name in 2008. They don't use the name in the episode, do they? Where did you find it? Sanfazer 15:58, 22 May 2011 (CEST)
 * The Neutral Planet had access to the actual scripts. Where he got those from, I don't know. --Sviptalk 16:00, 22 May 2011 (CEST)
 * So the Trivia bullet on the Soupy article remains, right? Sanfazer 16:07, 22 May 2011 (CEST)
 * Correct. --Sviptalk 16:10, 22 May 2011 (CEST)
 * Okay. Thanks for your help. Sanfazer 16:23, 22 May 2011 (CEST)

Spam
Maybe it's my paranoia, but we seem to be having a spam issue developing. Worse, they are creating user pages for their spam, so the bot ignores them. Any ideas about how to handle this? Teyrn of Highever 12:23, 23 May 2011 (CEST)
 * Yes, but I am at work right now. So I can first look into it later.  Unfortunately.  Other SysOps should be handling it manually... for now. --Sviptalk 12:25, 23 May 2011 (CEST)
 * What about creating a CAPTCHA requirement for registering? Aki 12:34, 23 May 2011 (CEST)
 * I'm actually surprised that there isn't one. Seems logical considering why the first CAPTCHA was put in. It's just that I'm not sure how much that will do. Don't user pages already have to go through a CAPTCHA before creation? That means that these spammers are human. Teyrn of Highever 12:38, 23 May 2011 (CEST)
 * Hm, I didn't know that. In such case, there is not much to be done except spending more time on deleting spam and banning spammers... or starting to pay us admins so we have more time to spend on the Infosphere. :D Aki 12:58, 23 May 2011 (CEST)
 * No, it means the CAPTCHA is not very good. According to what I have read, the best CAPTCHA is the ones where you just ask simple questions and require the user to enter them into a box.  This requires spammers to either write specific bots for this website and/or parse human language.  The former seems a waste of their time and the latter have yet to be accomplished.  I shall enable such a system when I get home. --Sviptalk 12:55, 23 May 2011 (CEST)
 * Ah, that sounds excellent, Svip. Aki 12:58, 23 May 2011 (CEST)
 * Spam problems over in the pool; Can't delete junk images, not a major issue for now as they've been non-offensive so far. [[Media:Las Vegas Air Conditioning 5280.jpg]] [[Media:Funny 2218.jpg]]. - Quolnok 13:05, 9 June 2011 (CEST)
 * I fixed the database issues on the pool. FINALLY.  Apparently the update script needed some hammering before it would work with me.  It works fine for the main wiki, but apparently it needs some tweaking to work with a wikifarm like we are running.  But now it is all better and it should work even for future updates of the software. --Sviptalk 20:26, 11 June 2011 (CEST)
 * Nice. Glad to have that one fixed. - Quolnok 03:51, 12 June 2011 (CEST)

Wikisimpsons
Hi, we've finished our move now so could you update the link to us in the sidebar and interwiki link to http://simpsonswiki.net/wiki/ please? Thanks, Solar the Dragon 20:59, 5 June 2011 (CEST)
 * Done and thanks for the heads up. --Sviptalk 21:20, 5 June 2011 (CEST)
 * The interwiki link is still going to ShoutWiki. Sanfazer 23:25, 6 June 2011 (CEST)
 * Oh right, fixed. --Sviptalk 23:28, 6 June 2011 (CEST)
 * Great to be of service! Sanfazer 23:29, 6 June 2011 (CEST)

MediaWiki:Anonnotice
I guess it doesn't really matter anymore, since we're only two days away from the end of the seven days, but what should be changed in order for the notice to only be shown to logged-in users? Sanfazer 23:45, 6 June 2011 (CEST)

Futurama reviews login
Hi, it seems like I have forgotten my login password for the Futurama reviews site (which I believe you were in charge of?). Any way of getting it back? - akitalk 14:03, 15 June 2011 (CEST)

Someone is trying to make me a lier
I think someone had hacked my account and now that I created another one, he is writing everywhere that he is the real DeepSpaceHomer which I AM. What could I do? --DeepsaceHomer 17:29, 15 June 2011 (CEST)
 * Svip, this guy is a liar (if you didn't realise yourself). He, as well as his second account, has beeen banned. Check this. - akitalk 18:11, 15 June 2011 (CEST)

Wikipedia "Futurama (season 6)" and List of Futurama episodes
Hey I saw you on one of these articles' talk pages. I am making a push to get everything put back to the correct production order. I was wondering if you are interested in helping me restore sanity to those articles. Thegreyanomaly 21:59, 26 July 2011 (CEST)

Affiliation
Hi, I am Escyos from the Stargate Wiki and I was wondering if you wanted to affiliate with us. Despite not being about Futurama or an animated sitcom, both of our topics are sci-fi (pretty much) and Futurama has been mentioned in Stargate. I too am a big fan of the series. Thanks. 150.203.222.57 11:44, 4 August 2011 (CEST)
 * Sure! I cannot see why not; the more the merrier!  Let me just wake up and affix your logo on the side. --Sviptalk 13:17, 4 August 2011 (CEST)
 * Not sure if you read this comment; but if you are interested, I would be willing to host your wiki site for free if you would be interested in that. Our server has 8GB RAM, 2x750GB RAID1 and Intel i7 Quad Core.  Together we have more power (and less expenses). --Sviptalk 12:37, 5 August 2011 (CEST)
 * Im assuming your talking to me, I don't really pay that much anyway so money is not a problem so theres no need right now to move anywhere, thanks though. 150.203.222.57 09:22, 8 August 2011 (CEST)
 * I was unable to find an appropriate logo to link to you. Any suggestions? --Sviptalk 10:27, 8 August 2011 (CEST)
 * Heres a png stargate (http://www.eyeofharmony.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/stargate-300x299.png ) you can use just mix something up like the wikisimpsons logo you have on the side also theres a pic on the homepage of my wiki that has "Stargate Wiki" in a certain font you can cut up and use. If you prefer I can do all this?
 * That would be nice of you. If anything, then it could look more like you want it to look. --Sviptalk 11:32, 8 August 2011 (CEST)
 * Sure give me a few minutes, any specifications? 150.203.222.57 11:34, 8 August 2011 (CEST)
 * And by few minutes i mean 23 days..... http://stargate-wiki.org/wiki/File:Stargate_Wiki_banner.png is that good enough? 150.203.222.57 08:13, 31 August 2011 (CEST)
 * Haha! That's usually what I mean when I say "a few minutes" as well! Also, IMO, the text is a bit blurry. Might be an antialiasing problem. What program did you use? --Buddy 08:43, 31 August 2011 (CEST)
 * Yea I noticed that must have been when i shrunk the image, give me some time i have to do something first and then i will re do it better 150.203.222.57 08:55, 31 August 2011 (CEST)
 * Ok (should be) fixed now. 150.203.222.57 12:44, 31 August 2011 (CEST)
 * Mmmm... are you sure? It's not that pretty. :S But I will use it if it is okay. --Sviptalk 21:54, 31 August 2011 (CEST)

It's definitely more legible, but now it's not antialiased at all. It looks like it was made in MSPaint. If you wanna wait "a few minutes" I can whip something nice up in Inkscape. Something that's already at the appropriate size so it won't have resizing issues. I'm working on a project at the moment, but I should get a little free time later tonight. We can use the current one for now until I get it ready. --Buddy 21:59, 31 August 2011 (CEST)

Yea i haven't a clue, images arent really my thing. On another note - http://io9.com/5836847/ultra+realistic-futurama-replicas-creep-us-the-hell-out?tag=holy-crap-wtf 150.203.222.57 18:10, 2 September 2011 (CEST)

Affiliates
Concerning affiliates, I noticed that the link to SSF goes nowhere. - akitalk 13:07, 8 August 2011 (CEST)

Contribs missing
http://theinfosphere.org/Special:Contributions/Thegreyanomaly

Hey, I've noticed all my contrib records are missing. I was wondering if you could help me figure out what is going on with my contrib records. Thegreyanomaly 05:58, 6 October 2011 (CEST)


 * Seems to be working again. Apparently it was a bug with a former version of the software. --Sviptalk 01:36, 15 October 2011 (CEST)

Changing categories
Can you please have your bot change the Articles that reference  categories so that they'll look like this? Sanfazer (talk) 23:09, 13 December 2011 (CET)
 * Who wrote those shitty templates?  Use the  functionality!  I developed it for a reason!
 * Let me help:
 * No need to develop a bunch of templates when one can do the job. --Sviptalk 23:27, 13 December 2011 (CET)
 * Guilty of 3 through 6. This is a huge letdown for me, so I won't give it any thought for the moment. Feel free to fix whatever I did wrong. Sanfazer (talk) 23:33, 13 December 2011 (CET)
 * You did not do anything wrong; you just failed to utilise a feature in the system you were using. Like reinventing the wheel.  Not necessarily wrong, but not really a good thing, if you get my meaning.  Still, I fixed it in .  I realised - unfortunately - that my  solution were a miss; apparently it does not expand templates well.  Yet, I made a more old fashion work around. --Sviptalk 23:35, 13 December 2011 (CET)
 * There. Helped you out a bit.  Now the templates themselves do not appear in the categories.  I also made all your former templates use the new template, so it's no biggie.  Listen; if you ever need any help on writing templates, I'd be glad to help!  But now I must really retire to bed.  Do you still want the bot to do something?  I might have time to look into that tomorrow. --Sviptalk 23:45, 13 December 2011 (CET)
 * Yes, I do. The Articles that reference  categories that I was referring to earlier. I've just updated the Articles that reference  ones. Thanks for the availability. Sanfazer (talk) 22:48, 14 December 2011 (CET)
 * Yes, I do. The Articles that reference  categories that I was referring to earlier. I've just updated the Articles that reference  ones. Thanks for the availability. Sanfazer (talk) 22:48, 14 December 2011 (CET)

Could you do to these what you did to Et? Sanfazer (talk) 18:04, 29 June 2013 (CEST).
 * Template:Cameo
 * Template:Mito
 * Template:Misato

Saturday Morning Fun Pit
Hey, during the recent Futurama Live session, DXC revealed this to be the title of the 7ACV26. I tried to move the page, but it won't let me. Can you help? 

Thanks Thegreyanomaly (talk) 02:43, 17 July 2012 (CEST)

Infosphere roll call
Table:Places. Sanfazer (talk) 22:08, 20 December 2012 (CET).

Cookie crumbs in the pool
Table:Image upload not working. Checked a few computers. Still consistently getting "Login error: Infosphere Pool uses cookies to log in users. You have cookies disabled. Please enable them and try again." - Quolnok (talk) 09:26, 3 March 2013 (CET)

Infosphere roll call 2
Table:Anniversaries. Sanfazer (talk) 02:56, 28 March 2013 (CET).

I don't know if you saw this (different from Quolnok's).

I'll wait another week for Aki. Sanfazer (talk) 15:39, 4 April 2013 (CEST).

Round "B". Sanfazer (talk) 03:07, 6 April 2013 (CEST).

Quotes
There's an issue. Sanfazer (talk) 01:19, 8 April 2013 (CEST).
 * Because we have never before used references to their origin in quotes, so they were not built to handle that. Either add a bot comment or find another way. --Sviptalk 07:21, 8 April 2013 (CEST)
 * But we don't have to lose the references? (Do you know about round "B" yet?)  Sanfazer (talk) 14:24, 8 April 2013 (CEST).
 * I am not sure I understand what "Round B" is supposed to be, you are just linking a diff, why not start a new section?
 * As for the the quotes; I consider it a non-issue, because I do not believe that the reference to the origin of the quotes should appear where they do in your example anyway. References or origins of quotes usually appear below a quote, not in it.  So find a more elegant way of doing it, and if the bot also ruins that, I may consider fixing the script by then. --Sviptalk 08:12, 9 April 2013 (CEST)
 * The round thing is just a joke. I didn't think a new section was necessary... though I did start a new section.
 * I hope this works. Sanfazer (talk) 14:58, 9 April 2013 (CEST).
 * Guess not. Sanfazer (talk) 18:19, 9 April 2013 (CEST).

There's another issue. Sanfazer (talk) 00:02, 24 June 2013 (CEST).

List of planets


I can't figure out what the problem is. Sanfazer (talk) 14:53, 27 April 2013 (CEST).

Solved it. Sanfazer (talk) 14:56, 27 April 2013 (CEST).

Special:DoubleRedirects
Something's wrong. Sanfazer (talk) 19:49, 12 May 2013 (CEST).

Table
I can edit this thread, but I can't read it. Sanfazer (talk) 20:32, 9 June 2013 (CEST).
 * Try this link. Apologies for the slow reply; been on holiday for 2.5 weeks. --Sviptalk 01:01, 19 June 2013 (CEST)
 * That works. Seems it's something to do with the plus sign.
 * Speaking of holiday, there's another conferential matter I'd like you to attend to. Sanfazer (talk) 14:35, 19 June 2013 (CEST).
 * Clicking Table:Test test testing + here gets me to Table:Test test testing, but clicking Table:Test test testing + in the conference table gets me to Table:Test test testing +. Any idea why?  (I'll leave it to you to delete the page.)  Sanfazer (talk) 17:11, 19 June 2013 (CEST).
 * The + is a special character in URLs, and the links in most Wiki pages do not escape it (example: '%20' for ' ' in URLs), but the table in the conference table is generated by an extension and not the regular parser, and thus the link is different. In general, avoid + in titles if you can.  If we absolutely must have a title with a + in it, I will look into a fix. --Sviptalk 17:21, 19 June 2013 (CEST)
 * Okay.
 * When you have the time, don't forget to exercise your right. I'm tired of going all the way here for anniversaries.  Sanfazer (talk) 18:23, 19 June 2013 (CEST).
 * (Deleted the page.) Sanfazer (talk) 18:26, 19 June 2013 (CEST).
 * One more positive vote, or plus-sign vote, until we can celebrate with a slice of delicious cake. Sanfazer (talk) 19:06, 19 June 2013 (CEST).

Category move
This may be asking too much, but can you program the bot to also create the new category? Sanfazer (talk) 22:28, 26 June 2013 (CEST).
 * I thought it did, if it did not exist. But I might look into that. --Sviptalk 22:41, 26 June 2013 (CEST)
 * Don't forget to look into the new quote issue as well. (The wiki as we know it depends on it.)  Sanfazer (talk) 22:56, 26 June 2013 (CEST).

Image gallery
Why does adding «perrow="x"» make rows have "x" minus one images? Sanfazer (talk) 16:07, 13 July 2013 (CEST).

Template:Episode navigation

 * Production
 * Broadcast

Individually, the two templates seem fine, but when I use the main one in an article it doesn't work. Sanfazer (talk) 21:08, 24 July 2013 (CEST).
 * Which article? --Sviptalk 23:17, 24 July 2013 (CEST)
 * Any. For example this one. Sanfazer (talk) 23:18, 24 July 2013 (CEST).
 * It is not designed for non-standard episodes/films. What happens when you insert the template? --Sviptalk 23:21, 24 July 2013 (CEST)
 * The production part would show no specials, and the broadcast part would should two. Sanfazer (talk) 23:23, 24 July 2013 (CEST). show two. Sanfazer (talk) 23:26, 24 July 2013 (CEST).
 * That's what 'production-row' and 'broadcast-row' are for. Pay attention to the code you're copying... --Sviptalk 23:29, 24 July 2013 (CEST)
 * I guess I should...
 * Can you fix it? Sanfazer (talk) 23:31, 24 July 2013 (CEST).
 * Just search for the keywords I mentioned, you should be able to figure out how to fix the template that isn't working... --Sviptalk 23:33, 24 July 2013 (CEST)
 * I think I understand. I used "production-row" for broadcast, when I should have used "broadcast-row". But if I change that we'll still have the problem of production not showing any new section. Right? Sanfazer (talk) 23:36, 24 July 2013 (CEST).
 * It seems to work for me. Sure you remembered to clear your cache? --Sviptalk 08:58, 25 July 2013 (CEST)
 * I didn't think cache was the problem, because I was seeing the specials row, but I'm glad it's working now. Thanks. Sanfazer (talk) 15:28, 25 July 2013 (CEST).

Infosphere roll call 3
Table:Ein. Sanfazer (talk) 04:57, 28 July 2013 (CEST).

Guess red is actually for "blip gang" (which doesn't exist yet) and blue is for "crud gang". Or maybe it's the other way around. (What am I? Melllvar, knower of the episodes?) Sanfazer (talk) 06:35, 1 August 2013 (CEST).

Comics
Can you have the bot create this for every comic?


 * Template:E/codes/Monkey Sea, Monkey Doom!
 * US#001


 * Template:E/titles/Monkey Sea, Monkey Doom!
 * Template:E/titles/c1 (probably unnecessary for crossovers and specials)
 * Monkey Sea, Monkey Doom!


 * Category:Articles that reference Monkey Sea, Monkey Doom!
 * A list of articles that reference "Monkey Sea, Monkey Doom!" by using.
 * __HIDDENCAT__

Sanfazer (talk) 19:33, 30 July 2013 (CEST).


 * No. It only treats episodes/films.  But perhaps we can add comics support in the future? --Sviptalk 19:57, 30 July 2013 (CEST)


 * We can be done with it now. Should I create this? Sanfazer (talk) 21:31, 30 July 2013 (CEST).
 * By which I assume you mean manually? Well, I don't think it is actually that big an issue to have the bot create all those templates, I am just wondering how big a priority it is.  Besides, if you are comfortable with Python (and looking at my code), you could have a go at the bot yourself. --Sviptalk 22:37, 30 July 2013 (CEST)
 * I'm not, though I'd very much like to see the bot's circuits and whatnot.
 * It's not a priority. I just think there's no reason it can't be done now. Sanfazer (talk) 22:56, 30 July 2013 (CEST).


 * Here is the code, if you want to look at it. I am pretty sure it is fully updated. --Sviptalk 22:59, 30 July 2013 (CEST)


 * Oh. Right. I remember that.
 * I don't know how any of that works. Can you create the templates? Sanfazer (talk) 23:03, 30 July 2013 (CEST).
 * This is the code that creates the episode templates, we could just the major parts of that for the comics. The AppearRef mentioned in the code is an object that contains all the episodes and comics (as data) based on the MediaWiki:AppearRef/episodes-like pages. --Sviptalk 23:08, 30 July 2013 (CEST)
 * But how am I supposed to make it create anything? Sanfazer (talk) 23:11, 30 July 2013 (CEST).
 * I might do it tomorrow, when I am not this tired. --Sviptalk 23:14, 30 July 2013 (CEST)
 * Okay. Thanks. Sanfazer (talk) 23:17, 30 July 2013 (CEST).

Category sorting
Would the bot sort Category:The Grumpy Snail under "G" or would it sort it under "T"? Sanfazer (talk) 23:36, 6 August 2013 (CEST).

Can you have the bot replace and  with the new template? Sanfazer (talk) 07:07, 23 August 2013 (CEST).

is taken care of. Sanfazer (talk) 00:50, 25 August 2013 (CEST).

Infosphere roll call 4
Table:Bender template. Sanfazer (talk) 02:16, 25 August 2013 (CEST).

Buddy, Quolnok, and Svip haven't voted yet
Will they vote yet? yes? Sanfazer (talk) 17:24, 3 September 2013 (CEST).

Your user page
Apparently you're voiced by Unknown. Might wanna do something about that... unless you like it. Sanfazer (talk) 06:09, 25 August 2013 (CEST).

Also, could you give me a hand with this? It doesn't seem to work. Sanfazer (talk) 06:23, 25 August 2013 (CEST).

MediaWiki:AppearRef/commontypos
Can you add "Bender Bending Rodríguez" to this page? I didn't add it myself because of all the "E"s. Sanfazer (talk) 07:43, 3 September 2013 (CEST).


 * This page is only for typos of Episode titles. --Sviptalk 07:49, 3 September 2013 (CEST)


 * Is there any way to fix this particular typo automatically? Also, someone said something about a Bender template. Do you know what that is? Sanfazer (talk) 10:07, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * By automatically I mean by using the bot. Sanfazer (talk) 15:49, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * That sounds a particularly useless feature. Just do it manually.  Don't needlessly create templates. --Sviptalk 16:40, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * I think it would make everything much easier. It's not like we can have too many templates. Sanfazer (talk) 16:44, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * We wouldn't have to worry about using full links in articles that are already using full links, because every link would be a full link. Sanfazer (talk) 16:46, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * Or you could just not have changed the title? I really don't care that much. --Sviptalk 16:48, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * If I hadn't changed the title, we'd have the same problem. Sanfazer (talk) 16:49, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * I'm going to add the thing about the full links to the thread. Sanfazer (talk) 16:51, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * The acute is not why I want the template. I have acutes on my keyboard. (You do too right?) Sanfazer (talk) 16:58, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * Is there even a problem? --Sviptalk 17:32, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * Arguably, yes. It's not a serious problem, but still. Sanfazer (talk) 17:34, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * And what is the problem? --Sviptalk 17:41, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * We're using redirects when there's no need to. Generally, no redirects should be used. We use some because the character articles have long titles. Since they have long titles, we should find a way around it. Sanfazer (talk) 17:44, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * And I am of the reverse opinion, don't over-engineer this. Redirects are fine.  I have no problem with them, if you spot a redirect, fix it, but otherwise, don't create templates and all such of crap that just do more to confuse than help. --Sviptalk 18:03, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * Why do you think it's confusing? And, if we don't create these templates, shouldn't we allow both redirects and direct links? Sanfazer (talk) 18:18, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * I think it is confusing to sometimes to use a template to link and other times not use a template to link. That's confusing.  And yes, we should allow both redirects and direct links, that's what I'm saying.  Don't over-engineer this. --Sviptalk 18:19, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * We would always use a template, just for certain characters. Also, with these templates, we wouldn't have to allow both. The two would be the same, which is much better. Sanfazer (talk) 18:26, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * If the template serves no other purpose than providing a link, don't use it. I don't want templates for that, it's ugly, inconsistent, confusing and goes against pragmatic decision making. --Sviptalk 18:27, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * Do you have the same problem with this template? Templates are supposed to make things easier. Linking shouldn't be an exception.
 * What I think is ugly is the "Redirected from" note we get with redirects. Not that I'm not used to it, but we can easily get rid of it for most pages. Sanfazer (talk) 18:31, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * So you are just being pedantic? That's really not very useful in this regard.  If a new user comes to our wiki, edits/creates a page where he/she links to Bender's article, he will not know the template.  So you come about, see his/her 'error', and corrects it.  Why use the template?  Why not just fix it by linking to the correct article?
 * You have not convinced me why a template is necessary. Or even how or why it solves your problem. --Sviptalk 18:35, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * Well, if we were to use these templates, we wouldn't be giving readers the "Redirected from" note I mentioned.
 * Really. What harm can using the templates do? I don't think anyone would be confused. Curly brackets for special cases. Round ones for everything else. Sanfazer (talk) 18:38, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * Oops. I didn't read the first paragraph. Sanfazer (talk) 18:39, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * The only harm is that it doesn't solve anything, and it is just more stuff to maintain. If you really are so damned worried about it (people are used to the redirect note from Wikipedia), then I can modify the bot to fix those links. --Sviptalk 18:41, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * My response to the paragraph I didn't read: [1]
 * The Templates for avoiding redirects project page can be linked to on the help page.
 * I would fix it be replacing the brackets instead of by typing "Bender Bending Rodríguez". It's easier, even.
 * New one:
 * I disagree that it doesn't solve anything, and there's nothing to maintain. We would only be reducing the amount of redirects. If a few would remain, that wouldn't be a problem. Why have the bot fix the links minutes after the edit when the edit can insert the full link right then? Sanfazer (talk) 18:47, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * Because of edit conflict. Sanfazer (talk) 18:49, 3 September 2013 (CEST).


 * Because no one reads the help page. It will still require two edits.  And I still think using templates as mere links in the wiki articles look ugly when reviewing the source.  Because apparently, 'ugly' is a valid argument in all this. --Sviptalk 18:51, 3 September 2013 (CEST)


 * Why do you think it looks ugly? They're still brackets.
 * We (you) can have the bot replace the links with the templates. Sanfazer (talk) 18:54, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * I think it's a valid argument if we're talking about the actual page. [1] The source can look ugly. Sanfazer (talk) 18:56, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * Article. Sanfazer (talk) 18:57, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * Trivia: I'm not making the links red because it looks ugly. Sanfazer (talk) 19:01, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * I have no idea what's happening now. But frankly, I really don't care that much.  If you want to go ahead with it, and I can't convince you otherwise, then fine, I don't care, whatever.  You haven't convinced me, but neither do I want to spend endless time on this.  It seems like a non-issue to me, that we are throwing a fit over, when we could just hide the redirected text all together, and only reveal it for editors interested in it. --Sviptalk 19:08, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * What do you mean hide it?
 * So you vote yes? Sanfazer (talk) 19:11, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * Hide it using CSS (display:none;). And no, I don't vote yes, I still disagree with the template.  But it is also not a fight I should bother myself with. --Sviptalk 19:12, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * But since you don't oppose implementing this can I go ahead and do it?
 * Though, wait. In which way would that hide the note? Sanfazer (talk) 19:16, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * It would disappear entirely. And if editors need them (for editing purposes, whatever), they can unhide them in their user CSS file. --Sviptalk 19:17, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * But would a reader be able to hide it? Sanfazer (talk) 19:18, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * No, because it would already be hidden. You would only be able to unhide it by becoming a user and creating your CSS file. --Sviptalk 19:21, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * That's really interesting, but I don't really like the idea, though. New people probably wouldn't want to join a wiki that's non-standard, that's different from Wikipedia. I think the templates are a better choice. Sanfazer (talk) 19:24, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * And I think neither are good solution, because it's a non-issue to begin with. Redirects are fine.  I don't really care that you think they look ugly.  I too think they look ugly, but I don't want to over-engineer anything to get rid of them; because they are fine.  I oppose the template, but I won't discuss it anymore.  I have much better things to spend my time on. --Sviptalk 19:27, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * Green light, maybe? then? Sanfazer (talk) 19:29, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * Not from me, but if the other sysops gives you a green light, then I won't oppose. My opposition remains that you are trying to solve something that isn't an issue, and it seems to me that there are much better use for your time. --Sviptalk 19:32, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * Okay. But what do you mean by over-engineering? Sanfazer (talk) 19:33, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * That you are trying to solve a non-issue using complicated mechanics, without stopping first and asking; 'wait, is there a simpler way to do this?' or - more importantly - 'is this even an issue that needs to be solved?' Because I think the answer is no to the latter question.  And once you've said no to that, you don't move beyond that. --Sviptalk 19:40, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * Also, this isn't even something that would take a lot of time. I would just have to create thirty, maybe a few more, templates. Sanfazer (talk) 19:36, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * Creating the templates is one thing, inserting them into articles is a far larger task. And no, I am not going to make the bot do it.  I can my making the bot correct redirects for you (I don't see why it's a problem to have two edits, we are hardly short on resources), but I won't help you with the templates, and I won't use them either. --Sviptalk 19:40, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * There isn't any task. The update can be made progressively. There's no pressure on anyone. [Sanfazer looks around.]
 * I don't need any help with these templates. They're fairly simple. What do you mean? Sanfazer (talk) 19:44, 3 September 2013 (CEST).

break
Then what's the point? If they aren't going to be used now, what's the point? Are you going to delete the redirects later on too? New users won't use them, other editors probably won't use them either. You might, what does it matter? --Sviptalk 19:46, 3 September 2013 (CEST)


 * No. They are. (I didn't read your response to the over-engineering question, by the way.) I'll use them in every article I edit... maybe. (No. I will...)
 * I don't think the redirects should be deleted. Some people will always use them. This way, though, the majority of the links will be direct ones. Sanfazer (talk) 19:51, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * I do think it's an issue, and there's no simpler solution that I can see. Sanfazer (talk) 19:52, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * Some users will use them if they seem them being used. Sanfazer (talk) 19:54, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * Well, good luck then. I don't have much faith in this, but you go ahead.  And I still don't think it's an issue, and I think the bot correcting this is a simpler solution, because it doesn't require a new template, it doesn't require anything new for users to do.  --Sviptalk 19:57, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * So I have permission? Sanfazer (talk) 19:58, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * Eh. --Sviptalk 19:59, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * If that's a no, say something in the next five minutes. If not, someone will have to have a lot of work deleting templates. Sanfazer (talk) 20:01, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * I think it's okay for some people to still use redirects. The only thing is that I (and others?) will be improving upon their work by adding the templates. Sanfazer (talk) 20:02, 3 September 2013 (CEST).
 * And this way I will have evidence to support my theory that no one will actually be using them. So go ahead, prove me wrong. --Sviptalk 20:03, 3 September 2013 (CEST)
 * I'ma. [Laughs evilly.] Maybe. Sanfazer (talk) 20:04, 3 September 2013 (CEST).