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'''The Conference Table''' is for discussion of the Infosphere, and proposals for new ideas. For information about upcoming changes to the Infosphere, see [[Current events]].
This is the former page of the '''Conference Table''', please use [[Infosphere:Conference Table]] for creating new discussion.  This is purely for history purposes.


==Throwing down the gauntlet==
==Background Jokes==
In light of the announced ressurection of the show, I think it's time to throw down the gauntlet, as it were. We need to commit ourseles to making the Infosphere the most comprehensive site for Futurama info on the web by 2008. We're well on our way, and it can only keep going up from here. Lets keep those articles coming! {{user:Gopher/sig}}
:''Move to [[Table:Background Jokes]].''
:Every episode done! And according to the system clock, it's before 2007. Now to do the other stuff. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 19:58, 31 December 2006 (PST)


==PE Building Floorplan==
== Referencing other episodes. ==
I'm asking for help. I have a few key episodes that I know of, but I'd like you guys to take any screenshots you can find (even low quality ones) and mail them to me (check my userpage for the email link). I'd like pictures of known areas of the PE building, covering as much of the floorplan as possible. Like in some scenes, you can see the TV area through the door in the conference room area (and that's pretty consistent, since on the outside, the TV area window is near where the conference table spot should be). Stuff like that. I'm going to start working on a map, and I'm hoping to be as accurate as possible. Areas that are difficult to locate should also be sent, and you can let me know where you think the area is. I'll color-code the map so speculative areas and canon areas are distinguishable. Thanks for the help. {{User:Buddy13/sig}} 14:19, 12 August 2006 (PDT)
:''Move to [[Table:Referencing other episodes.]].''
:Still no screenshots. I've got a few myself, and I'll start sketching out the floorplan. I'll be doing it in SVG, so I can post the work in progress and making changes will be easy. Any comments or such on where you think things are would be helpful. [[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 21:56, 24 December 2006 (PST)


==Template Request==
== Image standards and choices ==
I'd like to see a ProductArticleTemplate created. After seeing the page on [[Popplers]], it seems that a bit more polish is needed on the subject. The only two articles in the Products category are [[Dr. FlimFlam's Miracle Cream]] and [[Slurm]], and both are inconsistent even with each other. A standard of some sort needs to be created. What sort of information would be common to most product pages? Product type (be it medical, food, industrial, et cetera)? Maybe manufacturer? Any ideas? {{User:Buddy13/sig}}
:''Move to [[Table:Image standards and choices]].''


== Userbox ==
== Levelling system ==
:''Move to [[Table:Levelling system]].''


I think we should have userboxes that I have attempted to create. --[[User:Dagpile|Dagpile]] 12:34, 25 November 2006 (PST)
== Types of characters; splitting secondary characters into 3 ==
:We currently don't have the right version of mediawiki to do this the easiest way, but we can probably make a few.  What type of boxes do you have in mind? - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 20:49, 25 November 2006 (PST)
:''Move to [[Table:Types of characters; splitting secondary characters into 3]].''


Well, ones like "This user is an administrator on this Wiki", or what shows you like or "This user is a member of the welcoming committee" and a few others. Some others include what you do like, such as foods. --[[User:Dagpile|Dagpile]] 11:47, 26 November 2006 (PST)
== Inline episode/film/comic references ==
:[[User:Quolnok/boxtests|Here]] are some samples, I'll colour them in and make some others later. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 18:56, 26 November 2006 (PST)
:''Move to [[Table:Inline episode/film/comic references]].''
::[[Infosphere:Userboxes]] - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 18:44, 30 November 2006 (PST)


I'm eager to see more. And I'm eager to plaster my user page with them, proclaiming myself to be on break. (still my favourite one) [[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 21:56, 24 December 2006 (PST)
== ''Bender's Big Score'' on UMD? ==
:About 16 new ones (8 of which are similar to existing ones) are now on the [[Infosphere:Userboxes|Userboxes]] page, created on the 26th to celebrate everyone's favourite obsolete holiday, Boxing Day. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 16:10, 27 December 2006 (PST)
:''Move to [[Table:Bender's Big Score on UMD?]].''


==Al Gore in the movie?!==
== Needing Image Template ==
Pretty much confirmed by the new Cohen interview, wasn't it? I'll leave the video up, in case anyone wants to do something with it (converting it to MPG would be nice ;) →[http://futurama.overt-ops.com/algore.mov here it is]
:''Move to [[Table:Needing Image Template]].''


==ABSG Quota==
== Donations for new server ==
I was listening to one of the commentaries (forgot which one) and [[John DiMaggio]] responded to a character's use of the word "Ass" by saying there had to be a quota for "Ass" and "Bastard". So I had a crazy idea to actually watch the show and count every occurrence, but I also remembered that in other commentaries, they'd said this show has the highest gasp-per-episode rating, and highest slaps as well. So I added them as well. So I started a tally of the number of "Ass", "Bastard", Slaps, and Gasps, and started making a chart. I know it's dumb, but it's fun. You can visibly see the slap count jump when [[Mom]] shows up. Anyway, I'm a few episodes into Season 2, and I thought I'd see what people thought of the idea. Here's what I have so far. The first spike is the first Mom episode ([[A Fishful of Dollars]]). I can't tell you which colour lines are what right now, but the coloured backgrounds are obviously the seasons. I've yet to add labels to any of it, but I will (in the appropriate Futurama font). {{User:Buddy13/sig}} 11:14, 30 November 2006 (PST)<br />
:''Move to [[Table:Donations for new server]].''
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:Heh heh, that's actually kind of cool. I expect the most "ass"es is going to be [[War is the H-Word]] - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 17:04, 30 November 2006 (PST)
::"I can say ass again! Ass, ass, ass!"


Still working on it. [[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 21:56, 24 December 2006 (PST)
== Main Page suggestions ==
:''Move to [[Table:Main Page suggestions]].''


== What makes a minor character? ==
== Notability ==
:''Move to [[Table:Notability]].''


I have thought for a while now that perhaps Sal shouldn't be classed as [[Minor Characters|minor]], I've prevented one attempt to move [[URL]] to his own article but am reconsidering after the second attempt (Smitty would obviously be non minor also, I still think they should share an entry... is it URL or Url?). It seems obvious that [[Australian Guy]] and [[the Crushinator]] should go into the minor characters page as well. Is there a better way to describe minor characters? Something about the amount of episodes, being the focus of an episode, relative of other major character, etc. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 18:19, 2 December 2006 (PST)
== Reception and production ==
:Australian Guy is in at least two episodes (HHRHGB and APTR), but he's still quite minor. Maybe recategorize them into "Primary Character", "Secondary Character", and "Tertiary Character"--that word's a tad unknown, but it makes sense. Then we could put numbers to how many episodes makes the difference between 2nd and 3rd (primary is obviously the PE crew). {{User:Buddy13/sig}} 19:48, 3 December 2006 (PST)
:''Move to [[Table:Reception and production]].''


I'm proposing a vote to define characters into four clearly-defined classes:
== Animatics ==
*Primary Characters: PE Crew, examples include [[Philip J. Fry]], [[Amy Wong]]
:''Move to [[Table:Animatics]].''
*Secondary Characters: Minor characters that appear in more than one episode, examples include [[Hattie]], [[Sal]]
*Tertiary Characters: Characters that appear in only one episode, examples include the Taco Bellevue chihuahua doctor, [[Beck]]
*Psuedocharacters: Characters that are mentioned but never seen, such as Leela's boyfriend Shawn, and I. C. Wiener
Please vote and add your comments if you think you can improve the system.
:While they are more clearly defined, we still need to determine who gets an individual article. Primary, most secondary and a few tertiary would get individual articles I think. All relatives of primaries would be in an individual or shared article of some kind. Most already are, with exceptions like Enos and Mildred, Yancy and Mrs. Fry (Fry's parents), Yancy and Mrs. Fry (Fry's brother and his wife) some of these are by the above definition Tertiary. Secondary collects characters like The Masked Unit, who is never really focal in his main episode and pops up in the background a few times.  So I think a bit of refinement is still needed to be used for individual/group article distinction. -  [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 02:22, 25 December 2006 (PST)
::I think the current [[Minor Characters]] article could be split into [[Secondary Characters]] and [[Tertiary Characters]], and leave the format very much the same. And then stick with the current method of giving them their own article when enough info is collected... And we'd still have to list them all, with the characters with their own pages having a link like "see full article" or some such. The eventual goal is to give ''everyone'' their own article, I think. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 10:10, 27 December 2006 (PST)
:::I guess that sounds right, this change just gives a better definition and helps trim the minor characters page. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 15:38, 27 December 2006 (PST)
::::Sounds like a good idea to me but would Zapp and Kif go under primary or secondary- [[User:Humerbot 0.4|Humerbot 0.4]] 09:09, 2 January 2007 (PST)
:::::Per the definitions above, they'd be Secondary characters. They just aren't in enough episodes to really be primary characters. And yes, I realize that they worked for PE at one point, but by "PE Crew" I mean the people that are in nearly every episode, namely: Fry, Leela, Bender, Professor, Hermes, Amy, Zoidberg. Scruffy is technically a PE Crewmember, but he'd be a secondary character as well. --{{User:Buddy13/sig}} 18:26, 2 January 2007 (PST)
A [[:Category:Primary Characters|Primary Character Category]] and [[:Category:Secondary Characters|Secondary Character Category]] have been added {{User:Humerbot 0.4/sig}}
{{Infosphere:Accept}}
*{{User:Buddy13/sig}}
*[[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]]
*{{User:Humerbot 0.4/sig}}
{{Infosphere:Decline}}


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== Something I'ma work on. ==
:''Move to [[Table:Something I'ma work on.]].''


== Lists ==
== I demand more connections! ==
I think that some categories (such as planets, locations, Farnsworth inventions, non-Farnsworth technology, products, alien species, ships, animals, robots... ) must have an article with a list, as episodes or comics categories. The information in each item must be (at most) a very brief description, an image, and references to episodes. If an item has a bigger description or it is relevant, then it must have its own article linked from the corresponding list item (but preserving the brief description in the list). So, we avoid a possible large amount of short articles. What do you think? [[User:Bender22|Bender22]] 02:44, 9 December 2006 (PST)
:''Move to [[Table:I demand more connections!]].''
:Yeah, you're probably right. (except for robots, those are still in the minor charaters page) - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:04, 9 December 2006 (PST)
:Personally, I'd love for everything to have an article of its own. But I think we should start with conglomerate pages, like the minor characters page. As more info is written, sections can be removed to their own pages. I know this won't work for things where very little is known, like [[Minor Characters#Shawn|Shawn]], since an entire article is a bit much just to say "This is Leela's boyfriend that we never see." Anyway... *runs off*  &mdash;[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 21:56, 24 December 2006 (PST)


== Transcripts ==
== Categories for voice actors? ==
How about we use transcripts for episodes, just like commentarys, just these are all the quotes in the episode. --[[User:Electricbolt|Electricbolt]] 13:26, 23 December 2006 (PST)
:''Move to [[Table:Categories for voice actors?]].''
:There's another site that has transcripts. Forgot which one, though. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 15:25, 23 December 2006 (PST)


I think its [http://gotfuturama.com Gotfuturama]. --[[User:Electricbolt|Electricbolt]] 14:21, 24 December 2006 (PST)
== Calling all Nerdlingers! ==
;Wait a minute... : It is [http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar The Futurama Madhouse]. --[[User:Electricbolt|Electricbolt]] 19:22, 13 January 2007 (PST)
:''Move to [[Table:Calling all Nerdlingers!]].''


==News, everyone!==
== Oh yes, I forgot... ==
That Cohen interview made me very giddy. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 15:25, 23 December 2006 (PST)
:''Move to [[Table:Oh yes, I forgot...]].''


==Redirects==
== Infosphere:Portal ==
I have noticed that there are short redirects of characters names like the other Wikia about [[Futurama]]. But there is only redirects for [[Fry]], [[Leela]], and [[Bender]]. Do you mind if I add the others? --[[User:Electricbolt|Electricbolt]] 19:55, 24 December 2006 (PST)
:''Move to [[Table:Infosphere:Portal]].''
:Thanks for pointing those out. I have now deleted them. Prior active members had agreed that redirects are unneeded. Typing "Fry" into the search box yields results, the first of which is for [[Philip J. Fry]]. We avoided redirects to prevent contributors from being lazy, and to provide searchers with related pages they might not have found otherwise. If we want to vote again on the redirect issue, we can do so. But until a vote is held, I'll enforce the previous decision. [[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 20:36, 24 December 2006 (PST)
::In fact, while editing other stuff, I found the [[Help:Standards|Standards]] page, which is where this is mentioned. All new users should read the help pages.


In fact, here's a vote:
== Chinese Infosphere - coming up ==
Do we wish to allow redirects of shortened/common names to the actual articles? Examples: Fry &rarr; Philip J. Fry, Zoidberg &rarr; Dr. John Zoidberg, et cetera.
:''Move to [[Table:Chinese Infosphere - coming up]].''


Yes, I think laziness should be a "no", because in one article, Humorbot 0.4 had put the small redirect of Fry, Leela, and Bender. --[[User:Electricbolt|Electricbolt]] 16:40, 25 December 2006 (PST)
== Linking to Redirects ==
:''Move to [[Table:Linking to Redirects]].''


{{Infosphere:Accept}}
== Pixelations ==
:''Move to [[Table:Pixelations]].''


{{Infosphere:Decline}}
== Season 6 is fact ==
{{User:Buddy13/sig}}<br>
:''Move to [[Table:Season 6 is fact]].''
[[User:Electricbolt|Electricbolt]]<br/>
[[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]]
{{Infosphere:End}}


==Sigs==
== More Categories ==
I have noticed that the following users ([[User:Gopher|Gopher]], [[User:Jensor]]) have AL1 sig images. Where did they get them? --[[User:Electricbolt|Electricbolt]] 13:58, 25 December 2006 (PST)
:''Moved to [[Table:More Categories]]''.
:They created it themselves using the Futurama fonts. [[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 14:39, 25 December 2006 (PST)


Did they use photoshop doing this? --[[User:Electricbolt|Electricbolt]] 17:01, 26 December 2006 (PST)
== Forum style for the Conference Table? ==
:Well, they might have, but it would be just as easy using any paint program that came with your OS (probably MSPaint). - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 17:35, 26 December 2006 (PST)
:''Moved to [[Table:Forum style for the Conference Table?]]''.
 
==Hooray!==
We're on the Futurama Madhouse! Go to community portal, click their link, and scroll to the bottom. We's there!
:Awesome, they're one of the best Futurama sites around. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 17:59, 30 December 2006 (PST)
::And we've already got 66 referrals! That's huge in my book. [[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 09:00, 31 December 2006 (PST)
 
Referrals just spiked, since the link is now on the [http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/ most recent post]. Hooray us! (also, downloads for my nerdy Sims2 self) --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 13:19, 15 January 2007 (PST)
 
==Main Images==
For most of the episodes and articles, the main image (usually the one at the upper right) is named the same as the article, with a .jpg at the end. Should we adopt this as a standard and make sure that all articles follow it? It would make finding images easier, for one thing. And article editors would automatically know the name of the image that goes there... Vote please:
 
{{Infosphere:Accept}}
 
{{Infosphere:Decline}}
 
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==Other Futurama Wikis==
Oy. Why do users come here and make less-than-stellar contributions, and then run off and make half-assed copycat wikis? I mean, they're not even trying.<br />
http://en.futurama.elwiki.com/Main_Page <br />
Notice the news section. Notice the menu on the left. Obviously copied, since the "Conference Table" link leads to an uncreated page. I'm tempted to start banning members who have started other wikis. (not those who participate, since anyone's free to participate in whatever wiki they want), but most of these wiki creators rip things right off our pages and pretend it's their own crap. I'm getty royally annoyed. At this point, it's taking a great deal of restraint to even ask this question here rather than just banning them. I would love some feedback from Quolnok, but also from ElectricBolt, who created that Wiki, and Bender Bending Rodriguez who created one or two other wikis... Argh! --{{User:buddy13/sig}} 11:22, 9 January 2007 (PST)
:Good point, if you copy things like Fry Family Tree which is ours you should be banded - {{User:Humerbot 0.4/sig}}
::I'm going to have to agree on this one, heck Rod' even tried to recruit me for both of his wikis and the admin of wikia for the first one (from what I saw there she was confused by his decision to make another Futurama wiki). Perhaps an addition to the help pages reguarding other futurama wikis and the fact that "as The Infosphere intends to be the single most comprehensive resource for Futurama information and trivia on the internet, we don't feel as though additional wikis should be created to cover Futurama, please stay and contribute" or something. We have a section in there on plagarism right? Anyway, yes, something needs to happen. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:07, 10 January 2007 (PST)
 
Okay, I added some text about the issue [[Help:House Rules|here]] and [[Help:FAQ]] here, but it probably needs more. Probably something about being banned. Now, should we go ahead and ban the two users known to have created wikis? Should it be permanent or for a month? Still no word from either of them here...  &rarr;{{User:Buddy13/sig}}
 
You could try baning them for a month and if they keep copying when the month is up ban perminantly - {{User:Humerbot 0.4/sig}}
 
Well, you know I didn't actually create the ElWiki site of Futurama. I adopted it. Bender Bending Rodriguez, or known as Flexo on that wiki, created another one. Just to be sure though, go back to that wiki and [http://en.futurama.elwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Electricbolt&action=edit&section=new leave a message on my talk page]. --[[User:Electricbolt|Electricbolt]] 18:10, 13 January 2007 (PST)
:Before you "adopted" ElWiki's Futurama Wiki, did the page exist? If not, then you created it. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 18:25, 13 January 2007 (PST)
 
What page are you talking about? The person who created it was "Flexo". Just view his page on that wiki. Also, a lot of the images on there from this wiki have been deleted by me. --[[User:Electricbolt|Electricbolt]] 18:59, 13 January 2007 (PST)
:Hmm, it does say that. I was just confused by these [http://en.futurama.elwiki.com/The_Futurama_Encyclopedia:About] [http://en.futurama.elwiki.com/Special:Listusers] - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 19:06, 13 January 2007 (PST)
 
Oh, you're talking about that. When I had the site adopted to me, I was given administrative access and Flexo's admin was gone. --[[User:Electricbolt|Electricbolt]] 19:18, 13 January 2007 (PST)
 
==Detailed Cast==
Just an idea. How about a detailed cast list for every episode, as in type what characters that the voice actors play in the episode. Since this is a large scale idea, it will probably be declined but it's an idea nevertheless. <small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was made by [[Special:Contributions&target=172.201.33.229|172.201.33.229]]''</small>
:This actually might be a good idea, but could clutter up the ep articles, and adding another article per episode could be a bit much... Ideas on how to work this would be great. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 12:51, 11 January 2007 (PST)
==User:Admin?==
I think Admin should be blocked for username. It is a fake, because Buddy, I know is always on. --[[User:Electricbolt|Electricbolt]] 19:21, 13 January 2007 (PST)
:Thanks for pointing this out. I banned him, and I glanced at the user list and saw a bunch of questionable user names that I'm just going to delete from the database. I know it's not as effective as banning, but I'd rather just not have those kinds of names showing up at all. (for example, the user "F**k" only without the stars) --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 11:41, 15 January 2007 (PST)
::I also assume "Quolnok the spammer, like me!" and "This is a spam username" are bad names. People are idiots. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 11:50, 15 January 2007 (PST)
:::And while I'm looking at these, should I assume, Electricbolt, that I can delete your old usernames? Or are you still using them? --{{User:Buddy13/sig}}
::::I haven't looked at that list for a while, you can add "Quolnock" to the people are idiots category. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 15:15, 15 January 2007 (PST)
:::::BALEETED!  Heh heh, more like Quol-knockoff... Oh, I amuse myself. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 11:30, 16 January 2007 (PST)
::::::Yes, people are surely idiots. How can you delete a username from the database? I don't really need to though. But, I do need to delete one from my [http://athf.wiki-site.com ATHF Wiki]. Oh and one more thing about those usernames. I saw them before. I think you should ban all of them. They're no use at all. --[[User:Electricbolt|Electricbolt]] 14:41, 17 January 2007 (PST)

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Conference Table Archives
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Background Jokes

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Referencing other episodes.

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Image standards and choices

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Levelling system

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Types of characters; splitting secondary characters into 3

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Inline episode/film/comic references

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Bender's Big Score on UMD?

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Needing Image Template

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Donations for new server

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Main Page suggestions

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Notability

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Reception and production

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Animatics

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Something I'ma work on.

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I demand more connections!

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Categories for voice actors?

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Calling all Nerdlingers!

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Oh yes, I forgot...

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Infosphere:Portal

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Chinese Infosphere - coming up

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Linking to Redirects

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Pixelations

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Season 6 is fact

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More Categories

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Forum style for the Conference Table?

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