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::This isn't an exception; just because the events of the episode were erased due to paradox correction does not change the fact that they occurred.  Even the Anthology of Interest stories, which are clearly non-canonical, contain events which are canon. -- [[User:DeepSpaceHomer|DeepSpaceHomer]] ([[User talk:DeepSpaceHomer|talk]]) 00:07, 2 July 2012 (CEST)
::This isn't an exception; just because the events of the episode were erased due to paradox correction does not change the fact that they occurred.  Even the Anthology of Interest stories, which are clearly non-canonical, contain events which are canon. -- [[User:DeepSpaceHomer|DeepSpaceHomer]] ([[User talk:DeepSpaceHomer|talk]]) 00:07, 2 July 2012 (CEST)
:::I think that they really didn't occur; in the reality that the next episode takes on, the events of this episode other than Nixon being reelected never happened, which is the exact definition of a non-cannon episode. [[Special:Contributions/66.32.188.127|66.32.188.127]] 22:28, 2 July 2012 (CEST)
:::I think that they really didn't occur; in the reality that the next episode takes on, the events of this episode other than Nixon being reelected never happened, which is the exact definition of a non-cannon episode. [[Special:Contributions/66.32.188.127|66.32.188.127]] 22:28, 2 July 2012 (CEST)
::::This is the problem with time travel. In Bender's Big Score, a time duplicate Fry led a long life in the 2000s despite the original traveling back to the 3000s. Is the life of the duplicate Fry cannon? Timeline A would follow Fry (A), Fry (B) becomes a whale biologist on Timeline B, Fry (Γ) remains in the Cryogenic Tube and Timeline Γ merges with Timeline A, and the whole thing gets kinda convoluted. Think of the Time Paradox Benders at the end of BBS.
::::I think it can be considered cannon if the timelines could be mapped out as linearly as possible. The Travers B timeline ends abruptly at the end of the election, so it actually happened, but the "time" itself stopped suddenly and rapidly merged with the Travers A timeline (in which he is born but has not come back from the future). My head hurts.[[Special:Contributions/98.198.118.224|98.198.118.224]] 22:45, 3 July 2012 (CEST)


== Robot Uprising ==
== Robot Uprising ==

Revision as of 21:45, 3 July 2012

Cannon

Should this episode be considered cannon? Because technically, although it may have actually happened, no one remembers it, and it's extremely unlikely to affect anything after this episode.

Because it is not a comic, The Game, or an Anthology of Interest-esque episode and is part of the regular season, it must be considered cannon.98.198.118.224 05:47, 30 June 2012 (CEST)

I don't think that necessarily has to be true. Just because we haven't found a situation where there might be an exception doesn't mean that there can't be one. 66.32.188.127 16:20, 1 July 2012 (CEST)
This isn't an exception; just because the events of the episode were erased due to paradox correction does not change the fact that they occurred. Even the Anthology of Interest stories, which are clearly non-canonical, contain events which are canon. -- DeepSpaceHomer (talk) 00:07, 2 July 2012 (CEST)
I think that they really didn't occur; in the reality that the next episode takes on, the events of this episode other than Nixon being reelected never happened, which is the exact definition of a non-cannon episode. 66.32.188.127 22:28, 2 July 2012 (CEST)
This is the problem with time travel. In Bender's Big Score, a time duplicate Fry led a long life in the 2000s despite the original traveling back to the 3000s. Is the life of the duplicate Fry cannon? Timeline A would follow Fry (A), Fry (B) becomes a whale biologist on Timeline B, Fry (Γ) remains in the Cryogenic Tube and Timeline Γ merges with Timeline A, and the whole thing gets kinda convoluted. Think of the Time Paradox Benders at the end of BBS.
I think it can be considered cannon if the timelines could be mapped out as linearly as possible. The Travers B timeline ends abruptly at the end of the election, so it actually happened, but the "time" itself stopped suddenly and rapidly merged with the Travers A timeline (in which he is born but has not come back from the future). My head hurts.98.198.118.224 22:45, 3 July 2012 (CEST)

Robot Uprising

Is the future robot uprising in this episode the same future robot uprising shown in The Late Philip J. Fry? Because it would make a lot of sense.

We could add that, making sure people know it's speculation on our part and not definite. 66.32.188.127 03:40, 29 June 2012 (CEST)

Terminator?

Is really nobody seeing the Terminator Reference in this Episode?

Hoover dam?

In the scene after the protest outside of the Travers presidential headquaters when Leela slams Bender into the wall, Bender's motives are questioned and he says "'cause they won't let me near the Hoover Dam anymore." Anyone have some insight into why? Or, is it another of Bender's lies?98.198.118.224 05:55, 30 June 2012 (CEST)

I would say it has something to do with Las Vegas. It's not difficult to imagine he isn't welcome there.