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==Background Jokes==
 
I was thinking, both the simpsons and Futurama are known for their background jokes. Should there be a list for the background jokes on every episode? I think if we're to be a collective hub of Futurama info it would be important to do so.[[User:Anarchy Balsac|Anarchy Balsac]] 18:35, 7 January 2008 (PST)
 
do you mean a master list or for each episode dr zoidberg 14
 
Yeah, something like a trivia list except it says "background jokes" as its title.[[User:Anarchy Balsac|Anarchy Balsac]] 07:01, 11 January 2008 (PST)
 
great idea i say yes dr zoidberg 14
 
:Would they need time-indices? --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 18:36, 3 February 2008 (PST)
::Wouldn't hurt, though it would make the task more tedious.[[User:Anarchy Balsac|Anarchy Balsac]] 21:21, 15 February 2008 (PST)
 
You could also make an article containing all the jokes from season 1, one for season 2, one for season 3, one for season 4 and one for the upcoming movies.It would be easier than going through all the episodes and adding a new section. Fryandgarfield
:Hmm... *searches* reminds me of this group of articles [[List of computer science references]], which aren't linked from anything except each other and are far from complete. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 18:26, 25 March 2008 (PDT)
::I see your point. Maybe we should merge this idea with that one (since most of the computer science references are background jokes anyway) and put it in the sidebar to draw more attention(hence more editing) to it.[[User:Anarchy Balsac|Anarchy Balsac]] 12:38, 27 March 2008 (PDT)
===Background Jokes: break===
Okay, I think we need to start this topic again.  As I am watching Futurama now and then (often a lot), I am not paying much attention to the actual plot, but noticing parts of the screen I am supposed to stare at.  As a consequence, I have begun noticing a lot of background jokes.  Now here is how I think we can do this.  Make a huge article (list of background jokes), and get rid of the lists I created when I first joined this place.  In addition to that article, we can have noticeable mentions on each episode's page.  And then of course a link to the list article.  My rule for a background joke to be a background joke:  Something that is in the picture but unreferenced by characters and/or unimportant to plot. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 18:53, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
:Yep there should be an article. Just so long as we know the other, abandoned, ones are disappearing. Bits and pieces of these are already spread through trivia sections and commentary articles, and can be copied over. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 06:44, 21 May 2008 (PDT)
::Maybe in a similar format as [[list of deleted scenes]]?  Well... almost similar, I was thinking listing the background jokes by appearance in a big table.  And also make a list of alien language appearances (this one deserves its own list in my opinion). --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 07:03, 21 May 2008 (PDT)
:::There had been an attempt at an AL sightings section in episode articles... Yeah they should have a page too. Format should definitely sort by season/episode. Perhaps as subsections of episode have "Physics" "Computing" "Literature" "Television" sort of thing, if the background joke is just a fart joke or something, "other" is still an option. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 07:15, 21 May 2008 (PDT)
::::The subsections seems a bit overkill if you ask me.  Maybe keep it a list for each episode in the list, then have a bold type in brackets, e.g. '''(Physics)'''.  e.g.:
::::*Behind Fry at Mr. Mbutu's apartment reads the text "10 Sweet 20 Home 30 Goto Home" in a frame behind him.  This is a reference to the programming language BASIC.  '''(Computing)'''
::::For episode [[I, Roommate]], however, I still wondering how we should do this right.  A list or a table?  With a table we can apply an image, but not always will an image be necessary.  Hm. :S --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 08:22, 21 May 2008 (PDT)
::::I was thinking something similar, but make it a page like the Miscellanies sections. Both the Simpsons and Futurama have loads of freeze frames per episode. We should probably take a vote on the list or table thing.[[User:Anarchy Balsac|Anarchy Balsac]] 06:29, 22 July 2008 (CEST)
 
== Character types ==
 
I think we can all safely agree on what is a [[:Category:Primary Characters|Primary character]], but when it comes to [[:Category:Secondary Characters|Secondary characters]] and [[:Category:Tertiary Characters|Tertiary characters]], it becomes a bit more debatable.  According to the current definitions, it goes like this:
*Primary:  Appears in most or all episodes, films and comics.
*Secondary:  Appearing in more than one episode, film or comic.
*Tertiary:  Only appearing in one episode, film or comic.
But here is where the problem is.  Some characters will be labelled as tertiary, even though they have a much larger importance than a secondary character.  Example, [[Steve Castle]], the man takes over the company, he is one of the main characters in that episode, and that is an undeniable fact.  Since he dies in the same episode he appears in, he was (I edited it myself, because I didn't agree) labelled as a tertiary character.  But for instance, since [[21st Century girl]] appears in both episode [[Love's Labours Lost in Space]] and [[The Sting]], she is labelled as a secondary character, despite the fact that she have no major importance on the plot of any episode.
 
Instead, I think we should label our types of characters upon plot importance.  I am not going to argue for the primary characters, they are set, and are interchangeable.  But for secondary and tertiary, it could be like so;
*Secondary:  Characters with some or more plot changing purpose in one or more episodes, films or comics.
*Tertiary:  Characters without any plot changing purpose in one or more episodes, films or comics.
I'd especially like to hear Qoulnok's opinion. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 03:43, 25 March 2008 (PDT)
:Sounds more accurate, but it still leaves some characters questionable. [[Petunia]], for instance is in a number of episodes but doesn't quite meet that definition and I think she should be secondary. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 06:50, 25 March 2008 (PDT)
::I agree.  But perhaps add more to the definition for secondary then.  E.g. "Characters with some or more plot changing purpose in one or more episodes, films or comics and/or large reuse of character with interaction with main characters."  And thanks for not pointing out my misspelling of your nick. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 07:12, 25 March 2008 (PDT)
 
sure why not better than nothing. dr zoidberg 4
:::The only problem is that, unlike the current definition, it's much more subjective. You'd almost have to have a vote for every character to see which they are. But I agree, [[That Guy]] is a way more important character than [[Hattie McDoogal|Hattie]]. If we come up with a more clearly-defined division, I'd be happy to get behind this. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 11:50, 27 March 2008 (PDT)
 
== Countdowns ==
 
On Futurama Madhouse, they have a countdown for the films (when they know the release date), I was wondering if we should have the same for unreleased/unaired films/episodes (maybe in the infobox or the navigation above).  And then the next release/air on the Main Page.  It can be easy peasy with some javascript and what not. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 17:09, 27 June 2008 (BST)
 
ive been wondering why we havent been doing that actullay --[[User:Dr zoidberg 14|Dr zoidberg 14]] 21:11, 27 June 2008 (BST)
::Time to play with [[Main Page Proposal]] again I guess. I really didn't like how the airings template ended up. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 05:12, 28 June 2008 (BST)
:::I just threw something together (nonscripted, best to pick a layout first). Not very good. I went with purple (probably needs to change) thinking we could give Leela a background faded image like Fry, Bender and Hypnotoad, but the box'll be to small for that anyway and the box looked better just above Hypnotoad... If we use a box... There's a reason I'm a coder not a graphic designer. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 05:57, 28 June 2008 (BST)
 
I'm thinking we should put the countdowns on the pages containing the release dates themselves. Makes more sense to me.[[User:Anarchy Balsac|Anarchy Balsac]] 20:06, 29 July 2008 (CEST)
 
i was thinking about that to --[[User:Dr zoidberg 14|Dr zoidberg 14]] 21:27, 29 July 2008 (CEST)
 
Also, there are two pages that include the countdowns, and both of them are different. i.e., For the R3's BWaBB is due in 10 days on The Main Page Proposal, the Infosphere:Countdown says 11 days. Which is it? [[User:Go Bender Kid|Go Bender Kid]] 21:04, 30 July 2008 (CEST)
:They are identical.  The [[Infosphere:Countdowns]] page is included on the [[Main Page Proposal]]. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 23:39, 30 July 2008 (CEST)
Did you ''check'' them? Cause I'm pretty sure one says 11 and one says 10. [[User:Go Bender Kid|Go Bender Kid]] 02:12, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:I ''did'' check them, and they said the same on my end.  Anything else would have been odd.  Though, now that you mention it, it could have been a cached version appearing.  Maybe I need to reconsider how we are going to deal with cache, or maybe MediaWiki has a way for making some pages exceptions. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 11:19, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
::I'm glad you thought of that too. I was just about to mention that the caching will prevent IPs from seeing accurate countdowns. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 11:41, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
:::I'm pretty sure there's a slight glitch in the countdown (likely due to the rounding), it should say that there's 6 days to go for R4's BwaBB but says 5, unless we're going for 0 days when it comes out the next day. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 14:20, 31 July 2008 (CEST)
 
== In line episode/etc. references ==
 
As you know, we have decided that a lot of our plot descriptions as well as character, places, etc. descriptions doesn't require sources.  However, there are times where we through in an "in line" reference for more "obscure" things.  The intend is purely for readers to figure out where the hell the [[Planet Express Ship]] was equipped with that, or where it was shown to have which.  I am proposing that perhaps we should have a template for making inline references.  E.g. <sup>[[Space Pilot 3000|1ACV01]][[Image:Videoicon.png|10px]]</sup>, <sup>[[Monkey Sea, Monkey Doom!|US#01]][[Image:Comicicon.png|10px]]</sup> and <sup>[[Futurama (video game)|The Game]][[Image:Gameicon.png|10px]]</sup>.  Obviously similar to {{templink|e}}, which means I am currently focusing on creating a way where we will only have to edit one template when updating the titles, production/comic code and also support "special" episodes. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 17:52, 27 June 2008 (BST)
 
not a bad idea not bad at all. --[[User:Dr zoidberg 14|Dr zoidberg 14]] 21:09, 27 June 2008 (BST)
:There are a small number of those around, such as where we identify Nibbler's age from a DVD menu screen. If there are truely obscure factoids then we need to do it. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 05:12, 28 June 2008 (BST)
::Indeed for Nibbler's age as one, I was thinking of making an additional logo (which is basically a disc) to indicate it being on a DVD but not in an episode. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 11:04, 28 June 2008 (BST)
:::What about if/when someone references the full episodes of Everybody Loves Hypnotoad, or All My Circuits that you get in both BBS and the upcomming Bender's Game? I doubt that they would provide any information that would be neccisary to link to, but you never know... --[[User:Fatt Daddy Inc.|Fatt Daddy Inc.]]
:::: We already have for the full episode of Everybody Loves Hypnotoad.  Regardless, it links to a section in the article about the show;
::::{{e|s1}}
:::: But regardless, it is still to inform people that they appeared in said episodes. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 13:09, 30 June 2008 (BST)
 
== Article introductions ==
 
Several articles, especially episode articles, commentary, comics and the game articles don't have an introduction to what the article is about.  It would be nice if we could have some introductions, even if it would just a bit of a repeat of what was in the infobox, e.g.;
:'''Space Pilot 3000''' is the first episode of [[Episode Listing#Season 1|season 1]] and was aired 28 March, 1999.
Some articles may have longer introductions, if there is something special to mention, e.g. [[Futurama Returns]] was read aloud at Comic-Con.  Indeed, that whole article only hints at it was read aloud, not really mentioned anywhere in the article. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 13:43, 5 July 2008 (CEST)
:Yup, that sounds fair enough. Especially for the longer ones. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 13:55, 5 July 2008 (CEST)
 
== Rules on English ==
 
Yes, those of us that've been here a while know the rules: Don't edit en-uk to en-us or vice-versa, right? But I recently noticed [http://theinfosphere.org/index.php?title=Yivo&diff=0&oldid=29505 this] ("vapor" to "vapour"), and I wished to let the user know about this rule. However, it seems that this is an "unwritten" rule. I can't find it anywhere. This gives me two problems: I can't help the user out by showing him where this rule is. And I can't really get pissy about it, because how can we expect new users to know this if it isn't written down anywhere? We should definitely add it somewhere, but I'm posting here so we can decide ''where'' exactly. In [[Help:Basics|Basics]]? Or [[Help:House Rules|House Rules]]? Or even [[Help:Standards|Standards]]? (In fact, much of our Help could probably be overhauled&mdash;what with all the newfangled script contraptions you guys've come up with.) Any ideas? --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 19:40, 15 August 2008 (CEST)
:Actually, it appears in [[Infosphere:Manual of Style]].  I have talked with Quolnok about including a link to it in the {{templink|welcome}} template.  --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 20:00, 15 August 2008 (CEST)
:Oh, wait, I just included that myself. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 20:01, 15 August 2008 (CEST)
::Sorry for the trouble, guys. I was just confused and assumed en-uk was used after reading one of your summary messages, Svip. It was about something in the BwaBB transcript, but it was displayed in US and I had it in UK when it was uploaded. If I understand correctly though, both versions are acceptable? -[[User:Mini-Me|Mini-Me]] 03:03, 16 August 2008 (CEST)
:::Yep, both are acceptable and switching the page from one to the other is unacceptable if that's the only edit. Of course, we may look the other way sometimes. <br />I'd been holding off linking to Manual of Style because I thought it was still in progress... then kind of forgot about it. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 04:30, 16 August 2008 (CEST)
::::Okay, I get it now. Still seams a little messy, but I guess it doesn't matter if the one I prefer is kosher.
 
== Expanding our efforts ==
 
''[[Futurama]]'' is a great show.  An awesome show.  No one here is going to deny that.  But let's face it, it's not the ''only'' show.  And I know the lot of you have other shows you love and enjoy.  Despite the fact that when the ''Infosphere'' was conceived, there were other ''Futurama'' wikis, it has become the best ''Futurama'' wiki on the web.  So, I am thinking, maybe we can replicate this for a different show.  Since ''Futurama'' is labelled as a science-fiction show (though, technically, it is a science-fantasy show), I am think we might best get our hands on a similar genre.  Personally, I am also a fan of ''Firefly''.  Which, like ''Futurama'', also got cancelled by our favourite network, FOX.  Personally, I think we should keep the name "Infosphere," but give it a subname, e.g. "Infosphere: Firefly" or something.  Because, if the Infosphere contains all information, then surely it must contain all shows we know about as well.
 
Remember, this is only a proposal, if no one is willing to be helping at first, then maybe we won't.  Anyway, it may not be ''Firefly'', it was purely a suggestion.  Cause, let's face it, we are running out of stuff to write about ''Futurama'', if these films really ''are'' the last. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 12:17, 16 August 2008 (BST)
:There'll still be the comics...<br/>Never seen Firefly. I'd suggest Stargate or Farscape if there weren't decent wikis for those around (a good wikia wiki is actually possible). Futurama isn't always classed as Sci-Fi though, so there's my reason to suggest ''Arrested Development'' a fellow comedy without a good wiki. That said, I'm not sure I have the time for more than one major wiki effort anyway. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 13:55, 16 August 2008 (BST)
::I'm all for, a million percent and beyond, an Arrested Development section. It's comedy, call back plots and a great show (which was also cancelled by Fox), like Futurama. -[[User:Mini-Me|Mini-Me]] 23:52, 16 August 2008 (BST)
::As a fan of Firefly/Serenity, I have all those DVD's as well and can provide plenty of screenshots. However, I think we lucked out with Futurama not having a decent wiki. I think that if we tried any other good show, there's probably already a Wiki available for it. Perhaps if we do some research and find that there aren't any good ones (say, on par with the Wikia Futurama one), then it might be worth a shot. Arrested Development is funny, but not my particular cup o' tea. If you do that, I guess I'll participate (mainly for Grammar Gripes), but I won't be a major contributor. Stargate is okay. Farscape is better. And Lexx is hilarious. I know nobody mentioned that, but it's a funny show. And highly Canadian. I personally feel more in touch with the Sci-Fi/Fantasy genre, so anything along those lines would float my boat quite nicely. There's already an ''amazing'' wiki for Lost, and of course Star Wars and Star Trek. Firefly is nice, because it has the underground/cult following that makes it easier to quickly become the best, just like Futurama did. They could be sister-wikis. Or something. But as for the actual doing of it, I'm totally [[Neutral Planet|neutral]] on whether or not it should be done. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 01:21, 18 August 2008 (BST)
:::I hate these filthy neutrals, Kif.  With enemies you know where you stand, but neutrals?  Who knows!?  It sickens me. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 02:12, 18 August 2008 (BST)
 
== Referencing other episodes. ==
 
Should we place a "References to Other Episodes" section into an episode article if it is not present (I've seen a few with "Inside References")? There are a bunch that I think would link together many episode but aren't there and I was wondering if there is a reason for it or if it's just that there were more important things to complete at the time. -[[User:Mini-Me|Mini-Me]] 00:34, 23 August 2008 (BST)
:I'd prefer "Continuity", sounds more sophisticated.  And I think the reason if they are not there, is because we are slackers. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 01:05, 23 August 2008 (BST)
::Sounds good, but I noticed shortly after posting this that there are a couple of notes under Trivia that should be in Continuity. Should that all be filtered around or new/unadded stuff in Continuity only? -[[User:Mini-Me|Mini-Me]] 03:47, 23 August 2008 (BST)
:::Those are probably items left astray from our old standards.  Something we should have fixed months ago.  But we have a lot to see to, and we are few contributors. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 11:27, 23 August 2008 (BST)
::::Wasn't somebody just saying that there wasn't much left to do? That's crazy talk! --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 20:11, 23 August 2008 (BST)
:::::I could start sorting through those, starting at [[Space Pilot 3000|101]] and working up (while doing the remaining commentaries, of course). Not particularly busy this year and that back up I did will help out a ton. -[[User:Mini-Me|Mini-Me]] 01:13, 24 August 2008 (BST)
::What of the prerequisite sections that a few (four) articles have? That's another section that fits this grouping. It also has those fancy hidden text whosits Svip came up with, [[The_Why_of_Fry#Prerequisites|see here]]. One of those still has the fast forward section too... - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:27, 24 August 2008 (BST)
:::Found that discussion: [[Talk:Bender's Big Score#Prerequisites?]] - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:31, 24 August 2008 (BST)
:::I'd like to stop you there, let us not use those systems until they are more or less perfected.  As of right now, I am not entirely pleased with them.  And there may be too much rework to do if we began splattering all over the place.  So let's leave them where they are now, and call it that. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 03:53, 24 August 2008 (BST)
::::Stop me where? I was simply noting that they existed. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 05:06, 24 August 2008 (BST)
:::::No, what I meant, is that someone might pick it up and believe it needs addition, so I am just stopping them in doing it right now.  Seemed like the appropriate time to mention it. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 12:36, 24 August 2008 (BST)
After thinking about it for a while now, I'm not very content with just having the major ones listed, especially when the show has a vast amount of little call backs and foreshadows. Perhaps a page can be put together with all episodes listing out how they link to others. I wonder how long that would be. Or something else entirely. Just an idea. -[[User:Mini-Me|Mini-Me]] 17:05, 5 September 2008 (BST)
:Foreshadowing can easily fit into a section on the relevant article for the concept or character (as well as its appearances section). Episode articles shouldn't have pages of stuff in these sections. Unless I'm mistaken, these sections were based on the ones used at hrwiki.org (considerably shorter animations) they tend to include the most relevant stuff in the article then create an extra article for pretty much any recurring concept, we don't have it quite to that extent yet.<br/>On a related note, anyone want to do a [[Nicknames]] article? - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 02:03, 6 September 2008 (BST)
 
== "Bad news, nobody." ==
 
Has anyone noticed any dead pages around here, aside from those that don't exist? If so please make a note of it here. I've just fixed [[Sal]], it had been [http://theinfosphere.org/index.php?title=Sal&oldid=27850 failling constantly]. Apparently this is due to the load put on the server by some templates.
 
Reviewing the code of the es template I can see that it is a long switch statement that calls another template that probably doesn't need to be there. The overall number of es, e, eni and c templates on the page are the likely cause. Don't worries though, and don't start cutting all of them out of pages either. Unless you can't get that page to load on multiple occasions despite others working, that's when you can start doing it, or tell us. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 13:18, 24 August 2008 (BST)
:As it turns out, the issue has resurfaced, and worse than before given that Sal is down again. Perhaps our server doesn't like peak usage periods. Unfortunately, my recommendation is the '''complete phasing out of es, e, eni and c templates.''' No new pages should make use of these. Currently it seems any page with more than one or two that isn't cached fails during the peak. es and eni can be replaced by a standard wikilink e and c are to be replaced by the elink, flink and clink templates that already exist. To edit a non-loading page add ''&action=edit'' to the end of the url, or wait for someone else to get to it. luckily, there are lists of these articles that have been assembled by the mediawiki software.
:Replace with <nowiki>[[wikilinks]]</nowiki>:
:*[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:es]]
:*[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:eni]]
:Replace with <nowiki>{{elink||}} or {{flink|}}</nowiki>:
:*[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:e]]
:Replace with <nowiki>{{clink||}}</nowiki>:
:*[[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:c]]
:The only exceptions are the links to minicomics, which currently have no suitable substitute templates and those in userboxes and user pages. These will be replaced later and are considered a much lower priority. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 08:34, 21 September 2008 (BST)
[[Futurama Returns]] doesn't work. i can't get it to work so could someone else?--[[User:Scruffy|My leg feels funny!]] 06:18, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:That's fixed now. There are many articles currently now working, and it's a symptom of a deeper problem that is being worked on. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 10:08, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
 
== Acts ==
 
How do we know the act names? Unless there's information on the act names I think we should get rid of them and just put ''Act (1/2/3)''. [[User:Chris of the Futurama|Chris of the Futurama]] 19:09, 25 August 2008 (BST)
:As I understand it, there are only act names on [[Anthology of Interest I]] and [[Anthology of Interest II|II]].  Namely the names of the sub episodes.  For the films, we have only used names of the sub episodes as well, and avoided labelling those acts that has no name.  As I gather it, since it was before I came here, the act names are purely fan based, often a quote from the act, to summarise it. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 19:59, 25 August 2008 (BST)
::Aren't they from the inside of the cases from the DVDs? -[[User:Mini-Me|Mini-Me]] 01:07, 26 August 2008 (BST)
:::Yes, act names for season 1-4 are (or possibly were) from the DVD cases, however they vary between regions in some seasons. Anthology of Interest I & II are exceptions. Most comics lack Act names, except when there's odd groupings of pages ([[Bender Breaks Out]]) and the game uses the character whose face is on the icon of the corresponding FMV. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 12:26, 26 August 2008 (BST)
:::As Quolnok said, the act names are listed on the inside sleeves of Seasons 1-4 (Region 1). We've had some people trying to make up their own quotes, not realizing where we got the titles from, and they were wrong! Anyway, yeah. If they're diferent in other regions, I'd like to know what they are (with pictures, if we could!) --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 21:59, 29 August 2008 (BST)
::::the act names are different on the [[Monster Robot Maniac Fun Collection]] so could i maybe change them to those ones? unless they are the official and not fan made act names...--[[User:Scruffy|My leg feels funny!]] 22:25, 29 August 2008 (BST)
 
== A list of quaternary characters? ==
 
'''Quaternary characters''' are, in my opinion, characters that does not deserve their own article.  Because they are so insignificant, and may not even have a minor influence on the plotline.  But may be of interest, due to voice acting, etc.  A good example, is the man from [[Space Pilot 3000]], who utters "Pfft, tourist" when Fry crashes into the building coming out of the tube.  So I am asking if we should make such a comprehensive list? --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 00:32, 29 August 2008 (BST)
:How do you mean? The character's info in one article? [[User:Chris of the Futurama|Chris of the Futurama]] 03:52, 29 August 2008 (BST)
::No, a list of characters with their information.  Like [[List of Planets]]. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 09:15, 29 August 2008 (BST)
:::Like the now defunct ''Minor Characters'' article?<br/>I suppose that would be a definition for quaternary. Would that include [[Shawn]] or Fry's-old-neighbour-who-never-closed-her-curtains, or are they tertiary and quintinary? - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 11:50, 29 August 2008 (BST)
::::[[Shawn]] is mentioned too often to be considered quaternary.  But Fry's neighbour who never closed her curtains could be one.  She is mentioned and has no impact on the plot.  Shawn, however, does have actions to what Leela does at times. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 14:16, 30 August 2008 (BST)
 
what like wikipedias list of recuring charecters --[[User:Dr zoidberg 14|Dr zoidberg 14]] 18:15, 29 August 2008 (BST)
 
== More affiliates? ==
 
So far, we got [http://futurama-madhouse.com.ar/ Futurama Madhouse] and [http://slurmed.com The Futurama Point] as our affiliates, we link to them (though not enough by my standards) and they link to us.
 
In addition to linking to them from [[Infosphere:Community Portal|our Community Portal]], I was hoping we could add them to the [[MediaWiki:Sidebar|Sidebar]] (note: In a newer version of MediaWiki, it is possible to move the search field around in the Sidebar as well, check out [[wikipedia:MediaWiki:Sidebar|Wikipedia's]]) and possibly get more affiliates?  Unlike other fansites, we actual provide factual content, but are not a site you listen to for up to date content, even though we have that as well.  So I was thinking, perhaps the people at [http://gotfuturama.com/ Got Futurama] might be willing.  I am just throwing suggestions out there people! --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 15:32, 6 September 2008 (BST)
:Silence! I concur. I once tried finding how to put the little image button for their sites under the toolbox, but found nothing despite knowing it to be possible. I guess I didn't look hard enough. I'd suggest possibly adding PEEL to the list as well. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 15:54, 6 September 2008 (BST)
::Splice in some reaction shots of me and shove it in the sidebar. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 23:44, 7 September 2008 (BST)
 
== Obsoletely Fabulous ==
 
Although the characters in "Obsoletely Fabulous" would only seem to exist in Benders dream, I could have sworn I saw at least one of them in the audience for the Opera on "Devils hands are idle playthings." Can anyone confirm that for me? (DVD player broke u.u) -[[User:Jamklev|Jamklev]] 18:49, 18 September 2008 (BST)
:Bender's dream is probably based on reality, like most dreams are anyway.  So the robots probably exist, but them being on the island and all that just never happened.  I am sure you've done things with people you know in your dreams that never actually happened.  So is this. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 00:55, 19 September 2008 (BST)
::I was just curious if we wanted to put something in on their pages saying they do exist outside the dream (and also update the EP's they are in)[[User:Jamklev|Jamklev]] 21:57, 19 September 2008 (BST)
:::So long as the appearances list notes that the robots are separate individuals. It will be like the [[Robot 1-X]] article, more about the model of robot than an individual. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:35, 20 September 2008 (BST)
 
== Suggested Articles ==
 
i think these articles should be made
*[[Weapons]] (like [[List of products]] with things like Decapodian Weapons and [[Planetary annihilator]], or just make a catergory)
*[[Star Trek Connections]] (like [[Simpsons Connections]] except Star Trek.[http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Star_Trek_parodies_and_pop_culture_references_(television)#Futurama there] are loads of pages which have loads of references. it just deserves it)
*[[Money]] (just say currency like in all the episodes)
 
if anyone wants to tackle these they can. just suggestions that's all. <small>-- the preceding unsigned comment was written by [[User:Scruffy|Scruffy]]{{#if:|&nbsp;before {{{2}}}|}}.</small>
:A list of weapons article may be interesting, but I am not so sure about Star Trek connections.  The Simpsons connection article is there because the Simpsons refer back to ''[[Futurama]]'', something that Star Trek doesn't.  Perhaps it could be part of a popular culture references article, similar to [[in popular culture]], but the other way around.  As for a currency article, I am not so sure what exactly we could write in there, we've basically tackled all that in the necessary articles. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 12:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
::I think those could be good articles. Why not, eh? [[User:Chris of the Futurama|Chris of the Futurama]] 21:33, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
::I like Weapons, because there are enough to be an interesting and long article. The downside is that so many of them are not named (like the laser pistol that vaporized President McNeil);that could make an article difficult. As for Star Trek, I have no problem with that. It would be fun to have a list, but too many lists gets cumbersome. And it is true that Star Trek doesn't refer back, so "Connections" could be the wrong title. "References" or "Homages" would be more appropriate, if we decide to go forward with that. As for money... It really seems like monetary value is around the same as it is now (could discuss how that's possible: inflation countered by massive depression, or artificially removing money from the economy to increase its value, etc.), so I see little reason for an article. Oh, other than the fact that money in the future is water-soluble. Even the coins. Current money isn't. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 23:20, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Oddly, you'd think that'd be a step back!?  Also, Buddy, when are you getting Internet!?  You talked about getting Internet a year ago, shesh! --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 23:29, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
::::SOON! I just quit my job! And I anticipate a new job within the next day or two. Said job will pay real money (like, not a lot, but way more than being a delivery boy), and I will thusly acquire said net of inter. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 22:07, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Wait a minute!  Your country is bankrupt!  How can you get a new job!?  But how expensive is Internet over there? --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 22:20, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, if you're willing to settle for dialup, you could get it for around $10/month. But seeing as how I'm not a cave-man, it'll probably cost at least $30/month or more. Maybe up to $50/month. But I don't know yet. And yes, we're in a great depression. Greater than the first one. But our gas prices are finally coming down because everyone traded in their SUV's and got hybrids. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 22:30, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Hate to disappoint you, sir, but Internet uses cables to communicate, not oil.  Well, and electricity, but I think people have more to whine about than oil prices right now.  It may even be entertaining finally getting the opportunity to talk to you through an IM service. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 22:33, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::(I'm not indenting any more!) Oil prices affect almost everything. In fact, some service industries in the US started adding "Fuel Surcharges" to their prices to offset their own fuel costs. But anyway. As for the upcoming election, the US economy is pretty much the major concern. Though I wish we hadn't had this breakdown, because I personally feel that there are more important issues that will now be ignored in favour of the economic crisis... This is why I ignore politics, for the most part. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 23:12, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Could we get back on topic now?--[[User:Scruffy|My leg feels funny!]] 04:41, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 
== Countdowns... ==
 
Hey, me again. Um, it seems the countdowns have stopped... Is there a reason for this? <br> [[User:Chris of the Futurama|Chris of the Futurama]] 21:31, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:Seems fine now, yo. [[User:Fry217|Fry217]] 01:17, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 
== Easter Eggs ==
 
Do we have a page for the easter eggs on the DVD's? I couldn't find one, and I think if someone got the time, they should try to get one going. [[User:Jamklev|Jamklev]] 16:22, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
yhea sure why not i ll get one going Asap --[[User:Dr zoidberg 14|Dr zoidberg 14]] 21:01, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 
Easter eggs are already mentioned on the [[DVD]]'s listing. We only list what they are, not where to find them. Although now that we have such fancy scripting, we could hide the location (similar to a spoiler) and unhide it for people that want to know where to find the easter eggs. Although, now reviewing those pages, they could probably use an update. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 23:06, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 
oh then ill delete the page i made --[[User:Dr zoidberg 14|Dr zoidberg 14]] 21:31, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 
:Any progress on this being made? Cuz now I want to know where all the easter eggs are. Especially on the three movies. I haven't found those ones, and I want to be sure I've found all the ones on the previous seasons as well... --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 23:22, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 
== Blu-Ray Bender's Game ==
 
I am able to provide screen captures from the HD version of the movie, but am I allowed to or do they fall under the same category as DVD screen caps? -[[User:Mini-Me|Mini-Me]] 18:24, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:Falls in the same category.  But our image policy is clear that we prefer HD screencaps over regular DVD caps.  Also, I also got the Blu-Ray disc, /me dripples --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 22:05, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::Well that's fantastic. Turns out my monitor isn't HDCP compliant and I cannot get screencaps. Hopefully I can find a way around this, ripping the video track or something... -[[User:Mini-Me|Mini-Me]] 21:06, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
:I will never buy a Sony product! I'm sitting this generation of media out. The only reason BluRay won was because they forced a player on everyone who bought a PS3. Boo Sony! Sony is known for terrible proprietary formats, so why did we all fall for this BluRay crap?! Dah! --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 22:16, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
::Hey, I am no Sony fan either.  I mainly have the PS3 so I can mess around with it.  Toshiba said that it redrew its HD DVD from the market for the sole reason of ending the format war early on, so they could focus on producing the same format for everyone.  Unfortunately, I begin now realising that perhaps the HD DVD format was better than Blu-Ray.  As for the names, I think both are terrible.  I only bought the Blu-Ray version of Bender's Game to see what it was like.  Other than a video commentary, you don't really get much else.  Cartoons in HD are not that a significant an improvement over SD (Standard Definition) cartoons.
::But don't worry, Buddy, most people are sitting this format generation out.  Mainly because DVDs came rather recently (compared to VHS), and DVDs were are ''large'' improvement over VHS, so consumers could easily see the gain.  But Blu-Ray ''and'' HD DVD failed to gain the same confidence in consumers.  The appreciation of HD is not something that is easy to perceive on a regular Television, even a Full HD television.  To really get the feel of HD, you need a home cinema.  The point is, Blu-Ray won't be a success in the long run.  At least, not as big as VHS or DVD was.  Or CD for that matter. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 22:26, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Is Blu-Ray proprietary to Sony? I was unaware of that. There really is barely a difference except dimensions of the screens and the fact instead of going to slight static it goes to nothingness. I still intend to get a PS3 someday, I've gone back to hand-helds for the moment, but I think better discs are a step in the wrong direction, they should focus on refining cartridge/memory card technology as the primary medium. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 04:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah, I think solid-state is the way to go for the future. Flash memory is inadequate at the moment for high-demand applications (because it has a life-cycle shorter than a computer's hard disk should be), but if they figure out another way, that would be awesome. Imagine movies being sold on the equivalent of pre-loaded SD cards or little USB drives. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 23:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 
== Image standards and choices ==
 
I have been dealing with a lot of thoughts regarding the images on our wiki, both legally, picking and standards.
 
First of all, licencing.  I think we need a standard box on every image page (could use one of those MediaWiki: messages to add it), stating the usage, the licence and whatnot about the image.  I know we have our disclaimer page, but it would be neater for legal reasons to have it on the image page.  Now I know, we have not yet have any legal issues regarding our images yet, but it is better to beat the competition before they reaches us.
 
Then is picking.  A good example of what I am worried about is the [[Dr. John A. Zoidberg]] article.  I don't like the choice of picture for this article, especially because Zoidberg is only drawn with teeth in 3 episodes, making the picture giving a misrepresentation of him.  Another example is [[Kif Kroker]], no where else do we use the design sketch for characters in their infobox, however, speaking of design sketches, I think they should be supplied in every article they are available (so, at least all main characters and major secondary characters).  Then comes a third example, a bit different, as to supply my thoughts, the [[Zapp Brannigan]] article.  While the picture is not extremely bad, I think we can actually provide a better picture.  I am speaking of the picture where he says "I am the man with no name", cause the facial expression and line sums the Zapp Brannigan character up quite well.  And it omits having Kif in the picture.
 
Standards is basically a relying on the picking, plus some more technical issues.  I propose that for every character article, where an image can be provided, it must have been taken from the show or film (depending on where the character is).  If a design sketch is available for a character, it must be provided in the article, but only as an image within the article, to give air to the article, and avoid give the reader the feeling that it is not just text.  While content is good, images helps.  And lastly, this is not a standard, but rather an encouragement, if you see an image for a character, and think it can be done better, don't hesitate, don't go silent, provide arguments in its talk page, be either the image's talk page or the character article's talk page.
 
There was probably more I wanted to add, but I forget now.  But I guess this is enough to get some discussion started. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 22:36, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 
:A lot of those early pics were uploaded by myself (at the time, there were no other users who could get screenshots of DVD's...) and I tried to use the following standards:
***A full-screen image (I think the first Zapp pic was a cropped close-up)
***As soon after the character first appeared as possible (keeping the first criterion in mind)
***The Character depicted should, if possible, be the only character on screen
***Fairly representative of the character (keeping the first two criteria in mind)
:So that's where we get a lot of the primary and secondary character pics. But I'm all for updating them. Especially if it'll look better in the long run. Especially, as you note, the teeth thing. Zoidberg shouldn't have teeth (I didn't even notice them in the pic, so good observation), so it should really be updated. And Zapp's should have Kiff removed. I think I picked that image because it was so boastful that it was perfect, but it does have another character in the image, so it's not ideal. And now that nearly all of our members can provide screenshots, there's no reason they can't be updated. As for the character design sketches, they actually used to be on several pages, but they were deemed unsuitable for the main image, and they just went away. I'm sure they're still in the database, and they'd be fine lower down the page, but they just weren't good main images (as you pointed out for Kif). --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 23:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 
== Redirects ==
 
I know we have been discussing this before, but I want to talk about it in a different perspective.  Let me start off by an example, take "Time Keeps on Slippin'", I want to see its article using the Firefox search engine, where I have - of course - have The Infosphere, but if I type "time keeps on slippin'" (as I would often do, given my usage of Google up there), I am met with [http://theinfosphere.org/Special:Search?search=time+keeps+on+slippin%27&go=Go this].
 
That is a slight annoyance.  Therefore I am proposing to write a bot that creates all these "complete lowercase redirects", cause it would simply be too much human work.  In addition, I am proposing adding a system so you can easily tell it to redirect several "articles" to a single article, e.g. "1ACV01", "1acv01", "1", "space pilot 3000" -> "Space Pilot 3000".
 
I'd love to write this bot, and maybe it'll get more features than just redirecting, but I want to hear what you think.  Don't worry, I'll just use [[User:SvipBot]]. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 18:30, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:I have begun writing on it, and it can now perform some redirects (check its page for results).  It currently just gets 10 random articles from the database, then test each of them if they require a redirect, if yes, it asks to create one, if a redirect or an article exists in its place, it will cancel the operation and continue to the next article.  However, it cannot handle titles with special characters... yet. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 12:59, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 
== Internet for Buddy! ==
 
Next [[wikipedia:Woden's Day|Woden's Day]], I shall have the internet! I just called the company today (yes, they were open on Thanksgiving... wtf?) and they'll be over next week. Hooray! --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 23:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:Woo!  Will you be able to instant messaging and such then? --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 02:00, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
::I'm now online! Give me a few days to get everything set up, but yeah. Theoretically, I'll have IM and whatnot. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 00:40, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I still have your MSN contact on my list.  Still waiting for that day you come online!  It has been 1.5 years \o/ --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 00:55, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Actually, signing in to MSN has failed. I think the account expired (which is odd, since it's stuck with me for ten+ years... oh well). I'll have to sign up for new IM accounts. I've installed Pidgin, so I can use multiple clients' networks. I'll post the new contact info on my user page when I finish with that. I have a huge to-do list now that I'm online. All sorts of stuff to update. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 23:53, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well if you have gmail, you can use their Gtalk, which I also use, since it is Jabber based. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 00:23, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 
== Current Events ==
 
What happened to the Current Events page? Whenever I go to the link, I get [[Infosphere:Current events|this]]. What happened to it? Chris of the Futurama 14:45, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
:Apparently, it is just called [[Current events]], without the project name in front, I am going to fix that. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 14:47, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry, before it wasn't working, and now it is. Chris of the Futurama 15:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
:::That might be because I just fixed it. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 15:39, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Oh, thanks. I thought it was just my computer. He he. Chris of the Futurama 16:25, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 
== Spoilers ==
 
We have a {{templink|spoiler}} template, but I am beginning to think we don't need it anymore.  I mean, really, you are on a ''Futurama'' wiki, you'd expect there to be spoilers?  I recently learnt that Wikipedia's policy is not to warn users of spoilers.  That is not what an encyclopædia is about.  Since I consider the Infosphere an encyclopædia, with focus on ''Futurama'' (obviously), I say we should tackle it in the same way, and not hand out spoiler warnings.  It's not like people are going to whine or anything. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 15:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
:Exactly. It's not like Wikipedia has spoilers for their movie articles. [[User: Chris of the Futurama|Chris of the Futurama]] 20:55, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
:I think we only started it for the new movies, because some of us hadn't seen whatever new one there was at the time. Then it went away a month or so after that movie's release. If, like me, you wish to avoid spoilers before you see the movie, you can just avoid the page, like I did. So yeah, we could probably ditch it. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 00:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
 
== Firefox Search Plugin ==
 
I know somebody created one, and now that I'm at home on my own browser, I needs it agains. Care to gives me the locations? --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 23:50, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
:Easy, see the icon where it probably has the Google logo in your browser?  If it shines a little (e.g. blue), click it, then in the drop-down menu there should be an "Add The Infosphere".  Much easier. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 00:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, I did that, but for some reason, it didn't add the icon properly. Like, the search engine was listed, but it had no icon. I worked hard on that icon, I want to see it every day. ;) Hence my asking. I was hoping the normal way would work better... I shall try again. --[[User:Buddy13|Buddy]] 01:00, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, the icon doesn't work, for some reason.  Slightly annoying, but if you get it from [http://mycroft.mozdev.org/search-engines.html?name=theinfosphere.org here], you can avoid that.  Oh and btw, you can find that link in [[Infosphere:Community Portal]].  Crazy? --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 01:12, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Hmm, according to that link it was someone called "Quolnok" who made it. That's a weird name. - [[User:Quolnok|Quolnok]] 03:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 
== In popular culture and beyond! ==
 
After getting someone noticed of the [[in popular culture]] article again, I was thinking of perhaps it was time to device [[references to popular culture]], which will be its reverse counter part.  Someone have already suggested a [[Star Trek references]] article, but given how Star Wars refers to ''[[Futurama]]'' (at least in the expanded universe), perhaps a [[Star Wars connections]] article would also be in order?  As a rule of the thumb, if the show does not reference us, like Star Trek, use "<popular culture> references", if it works both ways, us "<popular culture> connections" and only they reference ''Futurama'' and not back, leave it in the [[in popular culture]] article (so far, I fail to see some popular culture referencing a real lot to ''Futurama'' without ''Futurama'' considering it, but I could be wrong). --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 09:30, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
 
== Bender's Game Opening Title Sequence ==
 
In Bender's Game Opening Title Sequence the yellow ‘shipmarine’ flies threw a corroder of numbers. These numbers seem to be none repeating. In the commentary David X Cohen said that the number’s ment something and to search them on Google. Smaller blocks of the numbers only bring up nonsensical pages that have nothing to do with mathematics. I was convinced that these sequences were from pi however when searching the first 200 million placements no matches were found over a block size of 7. I’ve searched through as many abstract non-repeating mathematical concepts I could think of but I’m just completely stumped to the meaning of these numbers and if they put in random not in order blocks from pi then any numeric will fit because as you may know 6 or 7 digit blocks are found at almost 100% of the time in pi. Does any one else have another idea? <small>-- the preceding unsigned comment was written by [[User:JoelleEmmily|JoelleEmmily]]{{#if:|&nbsp;before {{{2}}}|}}.</small>
:They had a similar discussion on [[wikipedia:Talk:Bender's Game#Numerical/math references|Wikipedia]], where they concluded it was [[wikipedia:e (mathematical constant)|e]]/the [[wikipedia:Natural logarithm|natural log]].  I hope that helps. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 15:08, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
 
== "Partnership" with Memory Alpha ==
 
[http://memory-alpha.org/ Memory Alpha] is the best wiki for Star Trek information, but you probably already know this.  However, I think it would be neat if we, instead of linking to Wikipedia, linked to Memory Alpha for Star Trek information.  And I have [http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Forum:The_Infosphere_-_The_Futurama_Wiki asked them] if they are willing to do the reverse.  I propose <nowiki>[[startrek:]]</nowiki> for our interwiki link. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 14:15, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
:i think its a pretty good idea. i like it. our [[Star Trek Connections]] would be awesome. maybe linking with [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Wookieepedia] aswell maybe?--[[User:Scruffy|My leg feels funny!]] 21:01, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
::Indeed, I have just started a [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:SH:The_Infosphere_-_The_Futurama_Wiki discussion] at their wiki, so hopefully they'll be interested as well.  However, if none of them agrees, we are still going to link to theirs, as I am (or I suppose, ''we are'') fully confident it would provide for much better links than to Wikipedia. --'''[[User:Svip|Svip]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Svip|Talk]]</sup> 15:00, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

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